re: Nazi Germany surrendered to the Allies on this day 79 years ago...

1) Without Lend Lease Moscow falls in 1941 and the rest of the USSR in 1942. Yes they put armed men, tanks and artillery into the meat grinder without regard to life or limb. Lend Lease is the only reason they had guns, bullets, artillery, planes, and tanks

2) Germany’s refusal to develop a long range bomber despite their desire for “living space” in the East cost them the war with Russia.

3) Germany’s failure to develop a simple fighter that had a better turning radius than the British fighters cost them the Battle of Britain and air superiority over the continent. This made D Day possible.

4) Germany’s over reliance upon U Boats to control and limit both the flow of goods from the US to the continent and defend the coast may have been their greatest mistake. Regardless of Lend Lease, If Germany could have sustained control of both the commercial shipping lanes as well as the sea coasts / ports, England starves and Russia runs out of bullets, guns, artillery, tanks, etc.


One of the most interesting topics Indy dives into during the WW2 week by week series is the war machine data.

US deserves some credit for lend/lease and D-day etc. which is why i gave them 10%.

90% credit for the USSR is deserved because of the savagery and barbarism required to beat back the fanatical, meth head germans. they were on the frontline in brutal weather in some of the worst circumstances imaginable.

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but they probably weren't in any condition to do anything about the uprising either.

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But Stalin also nixed British plans to air lift the Warsaw Jews supplies. The man was pure evil.
If Hitler was 1, Stalin was 1A.

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We're headed back to Hawaii in a few weeks and plan to spend Memorial Day at Pearl Harbor. Looking forward to a new feeling in a familiar location.

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just got back and it was the week the last surviving member of the Arizona died. They had memorial for him and had bag pipes playing which was touching.

Great find with this YouTube video. I'm going to listen to that entire thing tomorrow.

I could not imagine being alive back then and being glued to the radii listening to this news.

Incredible.

Also, without Lend/Lease the Commies are beaten by the Nazis. USA saved their butts with that. Yeah, they did a bulk if fighting and dying against the Nazis, but they couldn't have done it without us Also, don't underestimate the fighting we did in N Africa and Italy and the buildup for France. That ties up soldiers that could have been fighting in the East.

Also, you want to talk about savage fighting in the Eastern front, try the Pacific. No other country could have done what the USA did, fighting the Japs in the Pacific while simultaneously supplying the war machine in Europe and building up our own forces in Britain to invade France. Nobody.

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Outstanding victory for the soviets. Pretty pathetic that the US tries to act like they defeated the nazis…it was the ussr that put in 90% of the work

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I hope this is sarcasm. If not, this may be the most ignorant statement I’ve ever read. You really need to educate yourself.

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100% agree. The biggest military mistake of the 20th century was allowing the USSR to stay in existence.

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I agree. Stopping at the Elbe and letting them have Berlin was a huge mistake. Our leaders were so politically naive about the Soviets intentions.