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National Science Foundation University Rankings by R&D

Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:27 pm
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:27 pm
Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?

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Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:39 pm to
I smoked weed with Johnny Hopkins.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:47 pm to
Like that baseball player Lou G, he passed away from a disease with damn near his name. Screw Hodgkin disease.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 12:39 am to
Likely lots of money in medical research grants
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:57 am to
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Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?


It looks like that particular ranking is based solely on research expenditure. They bought their way to #1.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:38 am to
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Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?



It’s located in Baltimore just outside DC. Huge defense contractor

Posted by Krane
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:42 am to
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Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?





Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:39 am to
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Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?

It’s a research first institution. Not sports or groovy campus experience. Research. Makes perfect sense.

The surprise is that MIT is so much lower down on the list.
This post was edited on 5/12/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:28 am to
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Why is Johns Hopkins so much higher than anyone else?


Primarily medical research, and one of the leading institutions in the world for it. Having said that, there are several schools that would be much higher if they combined their dedicated medical school campuses with their main campus. By "dedicated medical school", I don't mean a complete freestanding university that offers a full range of majors from undergrad, like U of Alabama - Birmingham, for example. It would not make sense to combine them with UAT.

Look at the U of Texas though. It's MD Anderson Cancer center is a single purpose campus that takes in over $1.1B in research money alone, while the main campus at Austin pulls in nearly $800M, all non-medical research. Add in the similarly single purpose UT Health Science Centers in San Antonio and Houston, and UT approaches Johns Hopkins level. The main campus in Austin feeds the Health Science centers. For example, if you go to Austin to get a pharmacy degree, your diploma will have both the University of Texas at Austin, where you began the degree, and the Health Science Center where you finish your last couple of years, on the same piece of paper.

Other schools, like Texas A&M and Vanderbilt, have only one medical campus in close proximity to the main campus, and combine all of their research $ into one figure. Then there are schools like Auburn that have no medical school at all, which severely limits total research expenditures.

All that to say, these rankings don't mean much outside the medical community. Look how far down MIT is, and no one disputes that they are a global top 5 engineering school.
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 12:13 pm to
Thank you..well written
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
Exactly, take Harvard for example. Medical research there is split between the university, Mass Gen Hospital, and Beth Israel Deaconess (among others). That makes it seem lower than it actually is.

A lot of state schools have much more unified systems.
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