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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:48 pm to texag7
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:48 pm to texag7
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So how are they then threatening the wages of American workers?
They can easily work PJs, underground economy, millions of jobs where employers dont have to pay payroll expenses, and various other requirements for employment of US citizens.
And I said they come for handouts NOT JUST for handouts, please dont misquote to serve your purpose. And by the way its latter not later.
You really arent good at this...bless your heart.
So how are they then threatening the wages of American workers?
They can easily work PJs, underground economy, millions of jobs where employers dont have to pay payroll expenses, and various other requirements for employment of US citizens.
And I said they come for handouts NOT JUST for handouts, please dont misquote to serve your purpose. And by the way its latter not later.
You really arent good at this...bless your heart.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 1:56 pm
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:51 pm to ticklechain
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But mfer dox people these days
I try very hard to write on TD in ways that would not embarrass me if publicly known. I don't curse people, etc. In any case, God sees and knows all, and I'll have to answer to him one day for everything in my life, including my TD posts.
But yeah, I've certainly said enough here that would reveal my identity to people who were involved in the LAGOP at the time.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:58 pm to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine they are retreating from 3 more "villages" in the east. I dont think they are even unpacking at this point.
Course they are hoping the 61 billion, which is actually around 40, is gonna save them, same as that vaunted summer offense we are still waiting on.
Course they are hoping the 61 billion, which is actually around 40, is gonna save them, same as that vaunted summer offense we are still waiting on.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:01 pm to CitizenK
My wife works in administration for the Technical College system. Formerly called "trade school." They put "college" in the descriptor now because... it includes college-level classes... trades require college-level classes. There's no more work for welders just to make simple joints, robotics do that 24-7 without ever calling in sick or taking a piss-break or sleeping. Welders now have to do thing machines can't, and that requires some advanced math calculations or the ability to understand those instructions.
And the problem they have with students here is that they drop out when they hit those classes, because they're usually coming from bad academic backgrounds (most of them have to finish high school equivalency programs before they can start the trade education).
As far as education and the trade positions, what happened was that the Baby Boomers were such a huge generation that they filled up all the positions and then held on forever. When I was in high school they regularly told us NOT to expect to get a job at a plant or refinery like people were used to around here because increased automation was going to cause layoffs and they already had more people at the time, generally, than they needed. But there became a divide... "working class" kids mostly either moved up into being academically proficient kids who went to college or slid down into being academically deficient kids who increasingly didn't finish high school. Very few were in the middle and ready to move into the trades, and as the Boomers did start to retire or, uh, expire, that created the gap. My wife's job is to get people who are realizing that not having a high school diploma is not making a great path and get them started on finishing that, and then into Techincal College. Her job is pretty damned hard... even if people are willing they've got a lot of catching up to do.
And the problem they have with students here is that they drop out when they hit those classes, because they're usually coming from bad academic backgrounds (most of them have to finish high school equivalency programs before they can start the trade education).
As far as education and the trade positions, what happened was that the Baby Boomers were such a huge generation that they filled up all the positions and then held on forever. When I was in high school they regularly told us NOT to expect to get a job at a plant or refinery like people were used to around here because increased automation was going to cause layoffs and they already had more people at the time, generally, than they needed. But there became a divide... "working class" kids mostly either moved up into being academically proficient kids who went to college or slid down into being academically deficient kids who increasingly didn't finish high school. Very few were in the middle and ready to move into the trades, and as the Boomers did start to retire or, uh, expire, that created the gap. My wife's job is to get people who are realizing that not having a high school diploma is not making a great path and get them started on finishing that, and then into Techincal College. Her job is pretty damned hard... even if people are willing they've got a lot of catching up to do.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:20 pm to trinidadtiger
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Ukraine they are retreating from 3 more "villages" in the east. I dont think they are even unpacking at this point.
Course they are hoping the 61 billion, which is actually around 40, is gonna save them, same as that vaunted summer offense we are still waiting on.
The lack of US aid (especially artillery shells and AD missiles) was only one of the three problems that the Ukrainian military is dealing with right now. The US aid will help, but Ukraine is not going to stabilize the situation immediately.
One problem is that Ukraine failed abysmally to construct fortifications as their offensive faded last fall. For that alone, Zaluzhny deserved to be fired. You see that right now, as the lack of secondary fortifications behind Avdiivka almost led to a Ukrainian disaster.
The other problem is that Ukraine doesn't have enough troops. They just lowered the draft age to 25, and it will take time to get new units trained. And recruitment efforts had dwindled to near zero while waiting for US aid, because prospects seemed grim.
Again, the US materiel will help, but no one should expect Ukraine to immediately stop Russia from advancing and the current lines to hold.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:33 pm to Lee B
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Yes... Americans were here at the dawn of mankind and have never come from anywhere else!!!
We're Europeans. I have no desire to see us erased from the map. And I'm well past disingenuous arguments about immigration.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:30 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We're Europeans. I have no desire to see us erased from the map. And I'm well past disingenuous arguments about immigration.
Americans come from many other places besides Europe. From the start.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:13 pm to Lee B
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Ukraine Army Commander Says Situation 'Worsened'
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Outnumbered and outgunned Ukrainian forces struggle to hold Russians from breaking through on the frontline in the eastern Donbas region.
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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksandr Syrsky / AFP
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The commander-in-chief of Ukraine's armed forces said Sunday Kyiv's position on the frontline had deteriorated and that Russia had made a number of recent battlefield gains.
Russia's troops have gone back on the offensive this year, capitalizing on an advantage in manpower and arms to press forward, particularly in the eastern Donetsk region.
"The situation at the front has worsened," Oleksandr Syrsky said in a Facebook post Sunday.
He said Ukrainian troops had "retreated" to new defensive lines further to the west in some areas, conceding the loss of territory to the advancing Russians.
"The enemy has concentrated its main efforts in several sectors, creating a significant advantage in forces and means," he said.
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Russia had secured "tactical successes in some sectors," he admitted.
Russia's defense ministry earlier on Sunday claimed its troops had captured the village of Novobakhmutivka in the eastern Donetsk region -- around 10 kilometers (6 miles) north of Avdiivka, which it captured in February.
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Kyiv's forces are outnumbered across the battlefield, with the country struggling to recruit enough soldiers to replace those who have been killed, wounded or exhausted by the war, now in its third year.
Ukraine is also awaiting the arrival of billions of dollars in US weapons it hopes will end months of ammunition shortages and allow it to stabilize the front lines.
But leaders in Kyiv have warned the military outlook could worsen before then.
Kyiv Post
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:21 pm to Darth_Vader
There’s just no way to makeup for the men they’ve lost
LINK
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#????? Our source reports that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already experiencing a shortage of manpower. Due to the mistakes of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the miscalculations of Zelensky’s headquarters, which was chasing situational populist decisions, the reserves have thinned out. Although we warned Bankova many times that this strategy was wrong and would lead to huge problems in the long run, the office people believed and still believe that they will always be able to recruit free manpower that was previously put into meat grinders. It was 2024 that we predicted as the beginning of problems that even women’s mobilization could not solve.
LINK
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:21 pm to Darth_Vader
Kazakhstan sells Russian aircraft to be replaced by Western aircraft.
It appears that cannibalization from some of them to make some useful is the key. But this is a big blow to Putin as Kazakhstan distances itself from Russia.
LINK
It appears that cannibalization from some of them to make some useful is the key. But this is a big blow to Putin as Kazakhstan distances itself from Russia.
LINK
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:59 pm to Darth_Vader
They should have gone to the negotiating table last year after it became clear they gave Russia too much time to prepare defenses. Ukraine can't field the kind of combat power that would be required to push Russia out.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:00 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Recent Russian gains northwest of Avdiivka have prompted Ukrainian forces to withdraw from other limited tactical positions along the frontline west of Avdiivka, although these withdrawals have yet to facilitate rapid Russian tactical gains. Russian forces remain unlikely to achieve a deeper operationally significant penetration in the area in the near term.
The continued Russian stabilization of their salient northwest of Avdiivka presents the Russian command with a choice of continuing to push west towards its reported operational objective in Pokrovsk or trying to drive northwards to conduct possible complementary offensive operations with the Russian effort around Chasiv Yar.
Syrskyi also noted that the threat of a possible future Russian offensive operation against Kharkiv City is causing Ukraine to allocate additional forces and equipment to defending the city, although ISW continues to assess that the Russian military lacks the forces necessary to seize the city.
The Ukrainian 47th Mechanized Brigade denied a recent report that Ukrainian forces had pulled US-provided M1A1 Abrams tanks from the frontline.
Recent Russian efforts to increase control over migrants in and entering Russia following the March 22 Crocus City Hall terrorist attack appear to be straining relations between Russia and Tajikistan.
Russian authorities arrested several Russian journalists working for Western publications in Russia within the past several days, likely as part of an ongoing effort to limit Western and independent Russian media’s ability to reliably report on Russia.
Russian forces recently marginally advanced near Svatove.
The United Kingdom’s (UK) Minister of State for the Armed Forces, Leo Docherty, stated on April 27 that the UK assesses that Russian forces have suffered 450,000 killed and wounded personnel since the start of the full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:16 pm to StormyMcMan
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UK assesses that Russian forces have suffered 450,000 killed and wounded personnel since the start of the full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022.
Yeah...Russia has suffered 100,000 casualties and lost 5,100 armored vehicles since February
There has been zero evidence to support anything remotely close to these numbers. The UK MOD continues to embarrass themselves with these updates, even British people aren't buying this shite anymore.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 pm to Chromdome35
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They should have gone to the negotiating table last year after it became clear they gave Russia too much time to prepare defenses. Ukraine can't field the kind of combat power that would be required to push Russia out.
Yep. I’ve been saying this since it became apparent their last offensive was going nowhere. The longer they go on fighting, the worse their negotiating position becomes. What they need is serious diplomatic efforts in the West to find a way to get Russia to agree to some sort of peace the Ukrainians can live with. Sadly though, that doesn’t appear to be happening.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:22 pm to Darth_Vader
I remember you making that statement last spring/summer. You were right.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:30 pm to Chromdome35
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I remember you making that statement last spring/summer. You were right.
It should have also been obvious to the powers that be in Western capitals at least as long. After all, they’re privy to far more intel than any of us. They claim to stand with Ukraine. But they are doing nothing to help them find a way out of a war they’ve obviously already lost. Instead they’re sending billions more in military aid that will not make any difference on the battlefield and will only serve to further add to the butchers bill of this now pointless war.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:34 pm to Chromdome35
Ukraine is running low on men, and the conflict is unsustainable.
Russia is running low on armored vehicles to refurbish, and their conduct of the war is unsustainable. Russia will also go broke in about a year and face financial collapse, so the war is unsustainable.
But who runs out of what first?
Russia is running low on armored vehicles to refurbish, and their conduct of the war is unsustainable. Russia will also go broke in about a year and face financial collapse, so the war is unsustainable.
But who runs out of what first?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:35 pm to Darth_Vader
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Instead they’re sending billions more in military aid that will not make any difference on the battlefield
This again?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:41 pm to GOP_Tiger
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This again?
Yes, this again. I know you don’t want to admit it. But it’s true. Ukraine has shot its bolt. This aid package isn’t going to turn the tide. At best it might delay the inevitable. I’m sorry, I know you don’t want to accept this. But it’s the truth.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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Yep. I’ve been saying this since it became apparent their last offensive was going nowhere. The longer they go on fighting, the worse their negotiating position becomes. What they need is serious diplomatic efforts in the West to find a way to get
They're going to destroy the army trying to preserve the current front line, and its going to lead worst case catastrophic outcomes for them.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 8:51 pm
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