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re: LA. Supreme Court Rules in Favor of St. George Incorporators

Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10531 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:07 am to
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She also refused to call St. George a city all while preaching “togetherness.” She kept calling the entire area Baton Rouge and called St. George “the proposed city of St.. George.”

Yep. She kept saying that she continues to support a united Baton Rouge. Willfully ignoring that everything within St.George was never part of Baton Rouge to start with
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3370 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:10 am to
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Rail travel still won’t raise that to 25% unless they are bussing homeless people between areas repeatedly.


Yeah I don’t think so either, but the metros are moving towards each other. The fastest growing parishes, population wise, are between the two cities. Maybe they were thinking this would help in the future.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:31 am to
Just because the parishes are growing doesn’t mean the overlap will be significant.

At this point, I see Ascension as overlapping between the two due to plants and other employers, but I don’t see EBR and Orleans overlapping to a significant degree without fixing a lot of traffic issues that make commuting between the two a major issue.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9465 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:33 am to
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And now with this judgement at minimum everything north of Perkins will annex into BR. The path has been laid. Congrats on your Walmart off Bluebonnet

Except the St. George boundaries already include most of the land between Perkins and the previous BR city limits..

That includes Perkins Rowe and Siegen between I-10/Airline. I think the only major commercial areas north of Perkins that aren’t within the StG boundaries are the mall, Siegen Marketplace, and the hospitals.
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and higher than giraffe pussy property taxes to pay for your contract with the Sheriffs office and Dpw to provide basic services

Yeah, better to have those tax dollars siphoned to BRPD who doesn’t even have jurisdiction.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:33 am to
Ask her if Baker, Zachary, and Central are still Baton Rouge.

Ask her if Pride or Deerford is part of Baton Rouge.

Get her to explain why St George is part of Baton Rouge despite the area never being incorporated into Baton Rouge. Should be good for a laugh.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127441 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:44 am to
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Get her to explain why St George is part of Baton Rouge despite the area never being incorporated into Baton Rouge. Should be good for a laugh.

They always had a Baton Rouge address. That may change now, but since when before 2013 were people in the area saying “they live in St.George”?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48700 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:45 am to
I grew up in Central but we had a Baton Rouge address when I lived there.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:46 am to
Postal address =\= in the city. It means the nearest city per the PO, and there is a lot of weirdness with that.

There are Zachary addresses that are damn near in Central but considered Zachary due to postal reasons.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35104 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:50 am to
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They always had a Baton Rouge address


It’s cute that you don’t know how the post office works.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9465 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:54 am to
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Yep. She kept saying that she continues to support a united Baton Rouge. Willfully ignoring that everything within St.George was never part of Baton Rouge to start with

It’s really stupid that BR leadership ever let things get to this point. The entire idea of a consolidated city-parish government doesn’t make any sense when the “consolidated” government has functions that only serve half of the parish.

I know this all started because of schools, but as someone who lives in BR proper my biggest concern moving forward is police. Crime has become way worse, even in affluent areas of BR, than it was 5-10 years ago. A guy who lives on Highland near LSU Ave. had all four wheels stolen from his truck last week. They left it on blocks.

Even with the StG gravy train, BRPD doesn’t do shite. It’s only going to get worse now. I’d rather burn it all down and give EBRSO the whole parish but I doubt Sid even wants it.

Not that any of this should be St. George’s problem.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:56 am to
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but I doubt Sid even wants it.


As was brought up in the case, the sheriff wanting it is irrelevant if the PD covering an area dissolves.


Sorrento dissolving their PD meant that they had to contract with Ascension Parish Sheriff to cover policing of the area but APSO wasn’t allowed to refuse.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9465 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:01 am to
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As was brought up in the case, the sheriff wanting it is irrelevant if the PD covering an area dissolves.

Fair point. I should have said “not that Sid or BR leadership even want it.”

I’ve said this before - I think having one police department would be a net benefit for the parish, but I think there are too many political reasons to keep it from ever happening. BR leadership isn’t going to cede control willingly. BRPD isn’t going to willingly disband. And EBRSO probably wants no part of policing inner-city BR. Especially considering Sid is an elected official, and BRPD’s incompetence makes him look great.

I just don’t see how it can happen unless there’s some sort of massive scandal that brings down all of BRPD.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:05 am to
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BR leadership isn’t going to cede control willingly. BRPD isn’t going to willingly disband. And EBRSO probably wants no part of policing inner-city BR. Especially considering Sid is an elected official, and BRPD’s incompetence makes him look great.


If BR can’t afford to pay for BRPD, they may not have a choice.



BRPD funding is currently paid for out of the parish general fund, along with BRFD.

If that amount gets significantly smaller (tens of millions per year), BR has to find taxes or places to cut in order to keep the same level of services.



A lot of the argument so far has been “BRFD will lose its class XYZ certification if this happens!!!” Problem is BRFD only covers some areas and NOT St George, which already has the St George Fire District.

If that funding goes away, BR needs to make up the funding from elsewhere or dissolve it.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:06 am to
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I just don’t see how it can happen unless there’s some sort of massive scandal that brings down all of BRPD.


Brave Cave

That one goes beyond the officers working on that unit to an assistant chief actively covering up corruption involved.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8987 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:07 am to
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They always had a Baton Rouge address. That may change now, but since when before 2013 were people in the area saying “they live in St.George”?


You get only one shot to change or apply for a specific zip code for a city. Central tried it years back and totally fricked that up and was denied and that is why Central now has addresses that are Baton Rouge, Greenwell Springs, Zachary and Baker. Central should have never been named after a generic high school name vs. the City of Greenwell Springs. There was already a zip code that would have made it easier. SG will need to do it right if they apply for a new zip code.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96208 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:17 am to
How much of the problem was that there used to be a different Central, LA, which may still exist as a postal address even if the city is defunct?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4262 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:22 am to
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SG will need to do it right if they apply for a new zip code.


What are you talking about. The city name doesn’t matter for zip codes and postage.

I could put: 123 My Street, The Planet Earth, Space, 70810 and my mail would still show up at 123 My Street in 70810.




Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
55 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:40 am to
in 2013 if you said st george it meant to going to the church, there was no such thing as a community called st george
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31982 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:49 am to
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I know this all started because of schools, but as someone who lives in BR proper my biggest concern moving forward is police. Crime has become way worse, even in affluent areas of BR, than it was 5-10 years ago. A guy who lives on Highland near LSU Ave. had all four wheels stolen from his truck last week. They left it on blocks. Even with the StG gravy train, BRPD doesn’t do shite. It’s only going to get worse now. I’d rather burn it all down and give EBRSO the whole parish but I doubt Sid even wants it.




How does this change the policing in St George?


Honest question.


My understanding is that the money for St. George policing essentially stays the same because it won’t have its own police department and will rely on EBRSO. Which it was already paying for.

So BRPD will be LESS funded and EBRSO will stay stagnant no?

So on the basis of staff and policing it will only make crime get worse
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50616 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:50 am to
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They always had a Baton Rouge address. That may change now, but since when before 2013 were people in the area saying “they live in St.George”?


You are such an idiot.
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