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I can’t help but think a lot of people driving newer cars with upside down loans

Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
16895 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:55 pm
Last new car I bought was in 2012. Bought it for 22k, 0% through Toyota(sweet deal), and i still drive it. Wife’s car is failing, and it’s been in the shop twice in 6 months so we’ve just started searching. We’ve looking at Rav4 so around 32k depending on the trim give or take. But I found out the avg new car price is 47k? Good lord.

On top of the high car prices, the interest rates are ridiculous. I have an 800 score my bank offered me a 10% rate.


I can’t help but think with a combinations of high car prices, people paying over msrp the past 2 years, high interest rates, and depreciating of cars that the value of these newer cars are less than the loans. So if you sell it, you have to pay out of pocket to get rid of the damn thing. That’s wild.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48702 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:06 pm to
I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78842 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:07 pm to
I drive a 2012 Acura that has been paid off for 7/8 years. My maintenance costs have been nil. I feel judged by those who drive high status vehicles, as if I’m not part of The Club.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19847 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:07 pm to
Worry about you
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22462 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

On top of the high car prices, the interest rates are ridiculous. I have an 800 score my bank offered me a 10% rate.


Toyota offering 2.99 for 36 months
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11401 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

I drive a 2012 Acura that has been paid off for 7/8 years. My maintenance costs have been nil. I feel judged by those who drive high status vehicles, as if I’m not part of The Club



Frick em. You're the smart one.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8749 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:33 pm to
Had to take my 2015 Sonata to the shop this week. Was warming myself up to the idea of a new car.

Thought about the car note and immediately turned that idea off. Sounds horrible
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112700 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:35 pm to
Original thread. You seem mad you can’t put down a decent down payment.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15827 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:35 pm to
I got absolutely wrecked on my 2023 Tesla
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35104 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.


Put it on credik.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21141 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:40 pm to
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I have an 800 score my bank offered me a 10% rate.


Your bank sucks. Bank of America and Chase will give you under 7%, and most manufacturers are giving rate specials finally.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11520 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:40 pm to
I drive a 2009. Wife has a 2024. $32k is not getting you a Rav4 you would want these days. Look at the Mazda CX50, 0% and a much nicer car built in a co owned Toyota/Mazda plant. There are two lines but from all accounts the vehicles are built to the same standard.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15577 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:46 pm to
Yeah I was about to buy a new Honda CRV for a family member til I saw the current pricing. Starts at 32K, frick that.
Posted by bamabkj
Member since Dec 2015
700 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:48 pm to
Not true, mazda is cheap on steel quality. They each have different suppliers for parts.

Toyota is superior in every way. Mazda just builds a middle class suv and toyota is a economy suv corolla cross.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7093 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:51 pm to
Acura is doing 1.9% right now.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7522 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

2.99 for 36 months


You are financing something that is almost equal to what a home cost back in in the 1990's, and you want to pay that back in 3 years or less.

Your payments will be well north of 1,700 a month for 3 years on a 60k car. That is more than some mortgage and rent payments.

Unless you are making over 6-8k clear a month that is unsustainable, and hopefully your mortgage is around 2k a month.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423128 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:07 pm to
It's bad.

Once the cracks start to create floods, houses will be next.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5026 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:08 pm to
I laugh at the Range Rover gals
Horrible investment
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15681 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.

Toyota sales probably won’t ever have this problem. You want a Jeep or Nissan? They got plenty
Posted by HillabeeBaw
Hillabee Reservoir
Member since May 2023
1513 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:11 pm to
I'm still driving daily my 2009 Tacoma with 130k miles. Only cost is Oil Changes, Tires recently and a set of brake pads. I'll drive it another 10 years I'm sure.

frick these new prices on new trucks across the board.
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