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re: Barstool is down with the Georgia Waffle House strike and so am I

Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:07 am to
Posted by tigernurse
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:07 am to
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Especially at 3:00am...



you're not wrong Vette
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:18 am to
Why don't people just leave the job?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:38 am to
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Honest question, why does the amount someone makes dictate whether you tip or not?


Is this a serious question? The social contract between restaurants and customers is that restaurants pay less than living wage to their servers and customers contribute the majority of the server's wages through gratuity. If the restaurant owner breaks that social contract and pays their workers a decent hourly wage, then it is no longer on me to tip because the server's wages are included in my now higher food and drink prices.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12704 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:20 am to
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They have the best disaster recovery plan in the business.

They're up & running before FEMA delivers the first gallon of water.

Fema - waffle house index
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:36 am to
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This will be an interesting one to watch play out. One of my buddies has been an exec for them for a long time. They run on super tight margins so this would get passed right back in price increases and from what he’s told me the regular audience is insanely price sensitive.


It is not possible to raise prices because you experience an increase in production costs...if it were minding production costs would be an meaningless endeavor, you would just pass it on to customers.

If the margins in a business are such that the business must rely on taxpayer subsidies to meet part of its production costs the business is not viable to begin with. Woe poor old Waffle House...they have relied on low wages and government subsidies of housing, transportation, healthcare and other life costs for their workforce for close to 100 years...now that it is beginning to look like maybe they ought to have been footing those bills themselves having a store on 4 corners of an interstate exchange all of a sudden looks like a bad business decision. frick them and ALL low wage employers....
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:31 am to
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If you don’t stand with labor, you’re just a pathetic corporate cuck


More to the point if you are perfectly willing to accept the fact that low wages means more social spending and you are OK with your tax dollars subsidizing the production costs at places like Waffle House and your tax dollars subsidizing the costs of a meal at Waffle House for Waffle House patrons then you are the worst sort of capitalist that ever shat between a pair of brogans. This is EXACTLT the kind of capitalist which has ran the GOP since at least 1980....those who will tax and subsidize low wage employers and their customers. It is far better for employers to manage their production costs entirely from their revenue, instead we have a system where low wage employers rely on tax payer subsidies to make their nut.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:32 am to
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frick them and ALL low wage employees....


You go on a rant to destroy Waffle House’s business model, but you end it with this? Honestly, I don’t get it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:35 am to
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I'll say the same thing I tell my students. If you do not create DEMAND for yourself, you just get lumped in with the rest of the SUPPLY of low skill labor. Doing physically difficult work does not make you indispensable.


This completely ignores the laws of supply and demand. The demand for low wage employees is far greater than the supply of workers willing to work for low wages. If free market principals apply to anything they must apply to everything. There are only so many people willing to work for the wages currently offered at such places as Waffle House...the supply of such people is badly out of equilibrium with the demand for such people. What fast food and low wage employers are experiencing is the free market and its laws of supply and demand doing what the free market and its laws of supply and demand will do if left unfettered. Why anyone has an issue with it is beyond me but if you think its a bad idea for supply and demand to reach equilibrium I do not know what to tell you....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:19 am to
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There is absolutely no place in between corporate bootlicker and raging communist, right?


How one can make the leap from free market capitalism and the laws of supply and demand to "raging communism" is an indictment of the educational system in this nation.

When supply is inadequate to meet demand prices will increase without intervention. The supply of people willing to work in low wage jobs is falling while demand for their services in low wage jobs is steady or on the rise. Without some sort of intervention outside of free market forces (currently found in the form of subsidized living expenses paid to the working poor taken from the pockets of taxpayers) the costs of such labor will increase until supply and demand reach equilibrium. What is going on at Waffle House and other low wage jobs is a natural function of an unfettered free market. When demand remains steady or increases and supply drops prices will increase.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:21 am to
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There are only so many people willing to work for the wages currently offered at such places as Waffle House...the supply of such people is badly out of equilibrium with the demand for such people.


I believe that has much more to do with a government that will subsidize their livings for them than free market dynamics.

“Oh, nobody will do those jobs. We have to have illegal immigrants or our economy is doomed.” Pretty easy to figure out why.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:34 am to
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Waffle House is a shitpile.


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Pandy Fackler

frick you.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:38 am to
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I believe that has much more to do with a government that will subsidize their livings for them than free market dynamics.

“Oh, nobody will do those jobs. We have to have illegal immigrants or our economy is doomed.” Pretty easy to figure out why.



Almost ALL forms of such taxpayer subsidies to low wage employees require said employee having some income. We hand out very little in the form of subsidies to poor people in this country who do not have any income...most of those subsidies NOT tied to employment are subsidies that go to the disabled and minors too young to be employed.

It used to be that poor people had no such subsidies and made do on whatever they could beg, borrow or steal. When this was true it was common for poor people to live 8-10 people in a tiny apartment in a neighborhood that had no water and no sewage. Many times the employer provided said housing as part of the employees wages...mill towns are a prime example of this. At some point in time we, collectively, decided that sewage and running water and even electricity were pretty damn neat things to have and mandated that anyone living in a structure anywhere had them or they had to get the frick out. Low wage employers never paid for these niceties, they relied on the rest of us to foot the bill. In modern America you also must have some form of transportation - ain't nobody in a decent neighborhood going to stand for, say a Waffle House, in reasonable walking distance from a neighborhood where the residents could afford to work at said Waffle House.

It was also very common in the US up until the 1970s for children to be looked after by older siblings or left to their own devices while their parents went out and made a living. Poor people in inner cities were highly likely to live this way. It was also common for siblings to share not just bedrooms but to share beds, regardless of their sex. All of that is illegal today...try renting a 2 BR apartment in most of the US with a son and a daughter. Again, nice things cost money...ain't no free lunches. Someone has to pay...it would be far better if everyone paid through their earnings BUT we allow low wage employers to rely on these kinds of subsidies.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:47 am to
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I believe that has much more to do with a government that will subsidize their livings for them than free market dynamics.

“Oh, nobody will do those jobs. We have to have illegal immigrants or our economy is doomed.” Pretty easy to figure out why.



It really is easy to understand why...low wage employers know that the supply of people willing to work for their low wages who are natives to the US is dwindling...and those employers are addicted to their lavish lifestyles which are reliant upon low wage employees.

The beautiful thing about immigrants for low wage employers is they can live 20 to a 2 BR apartment because the officials meant to keep such things from happening look the other way for a myriad of reasons where they do not when it is native born folks doing the same thing. Immigrants also tend to have their children back home and therefore do not have any child care costs associated with their production unlike poor native born Americans whose kids are in school and running the streets causing all manner of ill shite.

Democrats support immigration because their base, comprised in large part of former immigrants and those among us who are marginalized, and about half of the GOP supports immigration because it keeps wages low and allows low wage employers to live lavish lifestyles and contribute to the campaigns of GOP candidates. Both sides, Democrats and about half of Republicans, will demonize the other half of Republicans as racists anytime that group mentions immigration and, unfortunately, there is ample evidence that at least a sizeable number of those in that half of the GOP do indeed oppose immigration out of racist ideas.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 11:50 am to
Like how they aren't mentioning in article that they are demanding $25/ hour.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54099 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:03 pm to
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How one can make the leap from free market capitalism and the laws of supply and demand to "raging communism" is an indictment of the educational system in this nation.


That’s what the person to whom I responded did implicitly, and is the reason for my sarcastic response.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37610 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:11 pm to
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More to the point if you are perfectly willing to accept the fact that low wages means more social spending and you are OK with your tax dollars subsidizing the production costs at places like Waffle House and your tax dollars subsidizing the costs of a meal at Waffle House for Waffle House patrons then you are the worst sort of capitalist that ever shat between a pair of brogans.


I’m not. I want little to no social spending on things like rent, food stamps, and income. I want less taxes on all things, not more.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:33 pm to
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I’m not. I want little to no social spending on things like rent, food stamps, and income. I want less taxes on all things, not more.


I agree 100% however one can't advocate for less social spending / taxation while simultaneously supporting the status quo of low wage employers without somehow lowering the basic minimum requirements of living in a nation with nice things like sewers and potable water. There ain't no free lunches in the world, someone has to foot the bill. It is far favorable for employers to do so than taxpayers. The vast majority to employers do so...only the dregs of society like fast food franchise owners and the WalMart heirs find it acceptable to live lavish lifestyles while customers and non-paying customers alike foot the bill for part of their employees production costs in the form of taxation.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64345 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:03 pm to
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How many employees are actually striking? It's hard to find googling. The waffle houses around me in metro atlanta aren't striking, no pickets, still open for business. I have a feeling it's like 14 actual employees and maybe a hundred union shills who don't actually work there.


I went to an ATL metro waffle house this morning, service was swift, food cooked perfectly, no picket lines.

Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22605 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:30 pm to
WH can always start selling Bert's Chili by the quart if they need to cover those costs.
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