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re: What is Spencer Rattler’s ceiling?

Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:03 am to
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:03 am to
I said Jay Cutler. How does that sound?
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:16 pm to
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They’re talking about ceiling, augie



No I get it. But we’re saying his ceiling is a top 8 qb. If even one GM felt that way he would’ve been gone long before the 5th round.

What are the physical holes in his game that drop him?

Because for a ceiling, that's really all I would look at.
Like, remember Garrett Grayson or whatever his name was, that Payton got us all excited about when he picked him... and then we saw him rear back and throw it as far as he could, and the ball went something like 45 yds? His ceiling was low, because he couldn't make throws downfield.

Far as I've seen, Rattler can make every throw you ask him to.

He's flashed at times in college. That seems to be the standard for some QBs, don't see why you wouldn't apply that to him too.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:28 pm to
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I said Jay Cutler


Mate I just said the same in another thray
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Dude might be a fighter. We could use one.


He is a fighter and took a lot of shite and moved on to have a decent finish at a school with little weapons and nothing to lose.

He has been known to feast or famine. If he's off he gets in his head and falls apart.

If he's on he's hitting everything and balling out.

Needs consistency and he could be fine pickup.
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:34 pm to
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He has the arm talent and can run


He ran a five second forty
Posted by Handsome Pete
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Magazine St
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:56 pm to
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Rich Gannon

Was horrible until he hit his early to mid 30’s. We don’t have time for that.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:05 pm to
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Probably a slightly Edgier version of Derek Carr tbh



Posted by Kato
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Should've doubled up with Michael pratt.


That’s what I was saying. If you luck out and get your franchise quarterback, you’re set for 10-15 years.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:30 pm to
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That’s some high pressure for a 5th rounder (would take Purdy type lightning in a bottle) to break that group.

We're talking ceiling in this thread. Not our actual expectations. As far as 5th round QBs go, he's unusually talented
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:26 pm to
Yep. There's talent there to be even better than Cutler, especially if we keep pairing him with talented offensive coaches. His ceiling isn't Mahomes/Burrow/Allen BUT i do think he could be a top 10 QB in that tier with Cousins/Dak both of whom were 4th round picks.


I don't expect him to get there. We aren't that lucky as a franchise. But you don't win the lottery if you don't at least buy a ticket, and he's in a good situation where nothing is going to be expected of him for the next year or two. Having a year or two to sit and learn helps even the QBs who turn out to be career backups.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:30 pm to
Some guys are pocket statues and will never hurt you running. Some guys are Daniel's and can kill you with the run. And some guys know when to run and hurt you.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:45 pm to
I honestly have no idea what his ceiling will be, but he is the 1st QB taken in forever that I have actually been excited to see what he can do.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5537 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:36 am to
The draft is always a deal where draft potential vs risk vs draft capital.

I gotta say getting Rattler in the 5th round vs Nix or Penix in the first is a pretty good value.

As a 5th round pick vs other 5th round QB’s over time? I’d say his potential ceiling is high.

He has the tools. Big arm. Mobile. Toughness.

Can he mentally be “that” guy to be an NFL starter? We will see. My guess is he starts a few games this year bcs Carr get dinged and we will have a better sense.

I like him.
Posted by RileyTime
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:26 pm to
Ceiling? I’d say Tyrod Taylor
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:53 am to
his ceiling is the floor
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:22 am to
No one here knows that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 9:26 am to
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McCarthy seems to be picked because he's 'a winner', which is more of a team thing than what he actually did.

McCarthy also has elite tools.

He's fast as frick and has a very strong arm. It's not just intangibles, but allegedly his are off the charts.

Now, his production in college was very meh. Is he a Justin Herbert (Toolsy guy who was held back by a bad offense) or a Mitch Turbiskky? Time will tell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 9:28 am to
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No one here knows that.

shite, you're right. Time to make sports message boards illegal.
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