re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

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Sengun alone has way more value than BI, so it would have to be Sengun only then we add BI plus Herb and picks.

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I do not think this is true AT ALL.

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I do not think this is true AT ALL.

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You think BI coming up on the $45-50mil payday has more value than the 21 year old he just averaged 21/9/5?


Sengun is better than Brandon Ingram right now. Now factor in younger and will make less money, how does BI have more value?

I also think people assume the defense won't work without Herb. Sure Herb was essential to offsetting 4 non plus defenders in the starting lineup, but depending on the trades that are made, you might be cutting a lot of defensive dead weight from the starting lineup.

I hope they can find a 3rd team to take something like Dyson and pick instead of Herb, but the team cannot stand pat and needs to find a way to replace BI, not with a center, but a 2 way combo guard/wing with All Star potential that won't dribble the ball off his foot in crunch time.

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I think you are overvaluing Sengun a bit, yes, and I like Sengun.

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Perhaps in what I said it may take to get him, but I have no doubt that right now he does have more trade value than BI, and we could not get a swap of the 2 and expect more from HOU instead of the other way around.

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BI and 3 Pels 1sts to Cavs

CJ and Dennis Schroeder to Hawks

Capella and Pels 1st to Nets

Donovan Mitchell, Dejounte Murray, S&T Claxton, 2 Nets 2nds and 3 Cavs 2nds to Pels.

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Well this would be pretty incredible for us

But why are we doing Cavs trades? Much less Cavs star player trades. They are 1-1 with the Celtics right now and a far cry away from blowing it up/trading their best player.

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Not sure Orlando would do that

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They would not

no shite, run don't walk

The more I look at trade targets, the more I think the way the draft lottery shakes out will have a huge impact on our options.

For example, Sarr might be the best player in the draft, but there’s a good chance that teams like the Spurs, DET, and potentially even POR and CHA don’t want to take a 5 like Sarr. I can’t see any of those teams trading the 1 overall (for many reasons, but especially just the optics of it), but if the lottery ends up something like

1. POR
2. SA
3. DET

I could see world where Sarr falls to 3 and DET being much more open to moving that pick.

Would we be interested in moving BI for something like Stewart, Grimes, Sarr, 2029 future first, and close to 17 million in cap relief?

FWIW, I don’t think they would do it since we need to win now

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But why are we doing Cavs trades? Much less Cavs star player trades. They are 1-1 with the Celtics right now and a far cry away from blowing it up/trading their best player.

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Mitchell is in a similar situation to BI, where he has 1 year left on his deal. The difference is that almost everyone believes that he won't stay there past his current deal, and they can't lose him for nothing. They may take a risk and attempt to trade Garland in the offseason to get a better fit next to Mitchell and try to convince him to stay over the first half of next season, but that seems like a big risk.

ETA: just to clarify I don't think the Cavs would do the trade you quoted, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that they trade away Mitchell this offseason.

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Let's just say for the sake of argument that Orlando wanted to do that crazy deal, I'd be looking up and down for Guards and Wings that can shoot I can get with Nance + CJ + Multiple picks

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I don't think they'd do that deal, but I wonder if they'd take CJ for Isaac. Then we could try to move BI for a guard. Maybe a BI for Garland swap with CLE.