BI and Willie had an exchange during Game 2 according to Shams

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Was it Green choosing not to run the offense through BI after what happened with the Lakers game or was it whoever was running the offense without Point Zion not getting it to him?

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I think BI was frustrated that he couldn’t get off Dort and wanted Willie to set up plays to get him free. Which I don’t disagree with but Willie just doesn’t do that. I mean we don’t set up plays for anyone.

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I mean we don’t set up plays for anyone.

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don’t think BI is wrong here though

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I think ingram played with a total lack of aggression and has no clue how to make refs call the fouls dort was committing. He should've been t'd up but it's not his personality

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I think ingram played with a total lack of aggression and has no clue how to make refs call the fouls dort was committing. He should've been t'd up but it's not his personality

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I don’t disagree with this at all. I think there were shortcomings by both BI and Willie in this series. But it seems like Griffin is choosing Willie here moving forward. I just think its time to move on from BI. What sucks is stuff like this doesn’t really help his trade value.

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Pretty much par for the course with BI and the lack of accountability. You want the ball, get open.


Help him get the ball...not saying there are no ways to do that, but man this is the NBA, if you want the ball bad enough, you WILL go and get the ball.


Problem is, BI quite literally could not do a single thing when he got the ball on Dort, so Willie had zero incentive to want to help him get the ball.

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Maybe Willie didn't want BI to get the ball cuz he knew he'd frick it up

I mean it wasn't just this series, it was just amplified this series.

I mean the little bit that Hawkins played, did they run any sets for him? The kid is a rookie and it's obvious that he can impact the offense simply by running around off screens, but he just sat in the corner when he played, and that's after Willie said he might play him to inject some offense.


I think what became obvious is BI didn't like the game plan, and his attitude on the court showed that.

I'm all for moving BI, but I still think moving CJ is more important than moving BI, and i understand the timing of BI's contract has more to do with likely needing to move him now, where as it's a lot easier to likely move CJ at the trade deadline or next offeseason if we wanted/needed to.

If there's a PG that can hit open 3's and be a floor general out there that can get Zion and BI easier shots, i still think that's a team that can compete at a high level. But I also think that's not how Willie and the staff want to play.

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Sure there are ways to make things easier here and there, but sometimes a player of this caliber getting paid that much has to get shite done by yourself, and you have to own it when you don't.

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It's why Zion being hurt ended the series before it began. The version of Zion we saw in the Lakers game that dropped 40 would've killed dort, then ingram could've gone to work against green, etc.

Dort is big and strong, but Zion was bigger and stronger and actually showed that dog mentality we've been begging to see.

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It really makes no sense from BI's perspective. Willie runs a screen, ball gets to BI...ok now what? You still got Dort on you. You've shown zero ability to score on him, so what are you going to do now? Oh, you also need help getting Dort off of you when you have the ball, how about a screen? But wait, you get a screen and refuse to attack and play the BI slow motion basketball so the screen becomes useless because you go around it, stop, and Dort just follows you until he's back into position to guard you. No one was going to put the ball in the basket for you. You're on a max contract. Sure there are ways to make things easier here and there, but sometimes a player of this caliber getting paid that much has to get shite done by yourself, and you have to own it when you don't.

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I don’t disagree with any of this. But maybe part of the problem is the fact is BI just isn’t that good. And it seems like hes gotten used to pointing the fingers at why he isn’t.

That being said- Willie coached horribly in this series. I didn’t see one single adjustment to help win this series. Seems like he got into more of an ego battle with BI. I mean at some point if BI offense is not working- bench him and play guys that can help him or your offense score. Instead Willie ran the same guys out and got swept.

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But I also think that's not how Willie and the staff want to play.

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It’s not.

Everytime Willie talks about the style of play the coaching staff wants he always talks about the .5 second offense, shooting 40 3’s a game and pace. Two things Ingram is not good at, and one thing he refuses to do even though he’s shown to be a 40% shooter from 3 on a high volume.