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re: Walt Disney's Pixar targets 'Lightyear' execs among 75 job cuts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:57 pm to Hayekian serf
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:57 pm to Hayekian serf
Coco cost $225m, made $815m at the box office, plus however much in purchases and streaming since then. It's one of the ones my kid watched 20 times.
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:14 pm to DBG
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This movie was doomed when they decided to turn toy Buzz into human Buzz. Kids grew up with and love toy Buzz, not this one.
definitly falls in the “who asked for this” pile.
i watched some of it with my kid and it seemed like someone wrote a sci fi script and some exec was like “how can we tie this in with an existing IP?”
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:34 pm to St Augustine
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Still kinda blows my mind that Disney doesn’t just go back to making some fun princess movies with a few catchy songs and then print a billion plus dollars a pop
Bc they’re activists and can’t help themselves
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:37 pm to peaster68
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They SHOULD have let Tim Allen voice Lightyear, but I do understand it in a way since they are 2 completely different characters.
Was that the reason why Tim Allen wasn’t brought back ?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:02 pm to SPEEDY
I feel like these firings are “fall guys/girls”. Tenured executives and creators, I find it hard to believed they just happened to cook up the dumpster fire that was lightyear. They probably got tired of toeing the line.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 4:19 pm to St Augustine
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Still kinda blows my mind that Disney doesn’t just go back to making some fun princess movies with a few catchy songs and then print a billion plus dollars a pop.
that was never really Pixar’s bag
I will say Onward was really good. bad luck with Covid, but I it was just a heartfelt movie about brothers without really a scrap of controversy.
Luca was also good.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 4:33 pm to SPEEDY
I wonder how much money Disney has to piss away on agenda pushing before they finally get the message that this shite doesn’t make any money?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:26 pm to CocomoLSU
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What do you mean the real Buzz? Do you mean the toy, or Tim Allen’s voice? Because this character was neither of those things. It would’ve been nice bad they used Allen, but I get why they went in a different direction since it’s what the toy was based on.
What killed that movie was the Disney woke stupidity and negative press due to that IMO.
Not having Tim Allen voicing it caused me not to see it. Very dumb, unforced error.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:27 pm to 225rumpshaker
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Really isn’t complicated they have been successful for decades but now people in charge refuse to do what makes money.
They are simply more concerned with social messaging than creating a great story. Pick any classic Disney movie you like and think about how dramatically different it would be if you incorporated the latest social issue into it. Until they get back to great storytelling and leaving all the social commentary at the door, they'll continue to take a beating at the box office.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:44 pm to SPEEDY
Lightyear was horrific. What a jumbled convoluted confusing mess of a plot for a children’s movie
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:00 am to SammyTiger
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I will say Onward was really good. bad luck with Covid, but I it was just a heartfelt movie about brothers without really a scrap of controversy.
Except for the whole first openly gay character within a Pixar movie.
Other than that, movie was pretty good.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:01 am to lsupride87
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Lightyear was horrific. What a jumbled convoluted confusing mess of a plot for a children’s movie
I'll have to take your word for the plot, because I couldn't last fifteen minutes into this thing. Tim Allen couldn't have saved it. An all hetero cast of characters couldn't have saved it. From my perspective it appeared that they thought they had the perfect concept to expand on a popular character and then stopped trying past that point. The early pacing, dialogue, and voice direction produced a product that was Chinese water torture. I was out fast.
If anyone from Toy Story 2 was washed out with this layoff, I'd hate for them to have Lightyear on their tombstone. Toy Story 2 was a triumph on multiple levels and those folks deserve better than that.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:36 am to St Augustine
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Still kinda blows my mind that Disney doesn’t just go back to making some fun princess movies with a few catchy songs and then print a billion plus dollars a pop.
Lol yep, they have the recipe for unlimited profit and they shite on it to appease people who are awful
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:38 am to JakeFromStateFarm
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I wonder how much money Disney has to piss away on agenda pushing before they finally get the message that this shite doesn’t make any money?
If I’m a major shareholder I’m sincerely questioning the existing governance’s devotion to their fiduciary duties to the company.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:05 am to DBG
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This movie was doomed when they decided to turn toy Buzz into human Buzz. Kids grew up with and love toy Buzz, not this one.
I've always said this. The interest in the movie was non-existent from the start. Just look at the official trailer.
To this day, it has 20M views on YouTube. The official trailer for Turning Red, which was posted a few months earlier, has 50M views. Frozen 2 has 101M views. Encanto has 46M views. Even Elemental has 32M views, and that was released just two months ago.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:13 am to JumpingTheShark
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to appease people who are awful
The people they are pandering to either don't support their causes monetarily or there aren't as many out there as we're led to believe.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:24 am to TigerintheNO
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Little Mermaid might not break even,
It'll make money. Not a lot and won't be considered a success, but it did really well on opening weekend. I think better than most everybody expected. Just had a big 2nd weekend drop off.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:37 am to iwyLSUiwy
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It'll make money. Not a lot and won't be considered a success, but it did really well on opening weekend. I think better than most everybody expected. Just had a big 2nd weekend drop off.
It will make money in the long run… but will probably not be a money maker in the short term due to all the marketing and everything else associated with it in addition to production costs.
Not a John Carter or Lone Ranger bomb for them but certainly a high cost film which won’t have the ROI they really wanted for such a huge property and cost.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:44 am to St Augustine
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Still kinda blows my mind that Disney doesn’t just go back to making some fun princess movies with a few catchy songs and then print a billion plus dollars a pop.
I agree they need to go back to their roots. They have put out so much crap. But what princess movies did they have that were just printing a billion dollars?
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:44 pm to iwyLSUiwy
It's a weird thing, at the macro-level.
Big companies like this are, or used to be, run by capitalists. The purpose for any action was to make more money.
It seems like they have lost sight of a basic rule that people once understood; if you make something to sell, you make it so that others like it, not that you like it yourself.
It's like opening a restaurant in a Muslim area... they don't eat pork. So, you don't try to force BBQ'd pork as your menu. It doesn't matter if you think that's the best food ever, and other BBQ consumers agree your recipe is great; they don't eat pork, so they won't buy your product. And you're not going to change that, you can't insult them into eating it. They're just going to look at you and say you're fricking stupid, and laugh.
Big companies like this are, or used to be, run by capitalists. The purpose for any action was to make more money.
It seems like they have lost sight of a basic rule that people once understood; if you make something to sell, you make it so that others like it, not that you like it yourself.
It's like opening a restaurant in a Muslim area... they don't eat pork. So, you don't try to force BBQ'd pork as your menu. It doesn't matter if you think that's the best food ever, and other BBQ consumers agree your recipe is great; they don't eat pork, so they won't buy your product. And you're not going to change that, you can't insult them into eating it. They're just going to look at you and say you're fricking stupid, and laugh.
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