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re: How much of a joke is it that Star Wars was ever thought to be equal to Lord of the Rings?

Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:25 am to
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:25 am to
You know, I actually was one of your proponents on bringing you back but

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It’s extremely clear that you have no idea what the frick you’re talking about when it comes to these films


You can go frick yourself with this shite. You are an angry little man who post a bunch of shite. frick, dude calm down and get laid.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:30 am to
You just don’t know what you’re talking about there. Sorry, but you don’t, but I do appreciate the advocation. Maybe I should have put it a bit kinder, but I do have to stand up for Peter when people shite all over him for the Hobbit prequels since I think he’s the only person that held it together from being a total disaster.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 11:33 am
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:44 am to
My main point is he had enough clout to do what he wanted and if he didn't get his way he should have walked away. I know he was banking on Del Toro to do it and put him in a spot when he backed out but one would think PJ could do what he wanted. Maybe not.

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but I do have to stand up for Peter


And i am sure he appreciates that.

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You just don’t know what you’re talking about there. Sorry, but you don’t,


It's going to be tough to go on knowing this. It's good to have sexless nerds like you to put me in my place. I salute you.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
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My main point is he had enough clout to do what he wanted and if he didn't get his way he should have walked away.


Well he didn’t, and if he did the Hobbit trilogy would have been pure gibberish and the fans would have trashed him for walking away and not saving the project. Regardless of what he did, many would paint Peter Jackson as the bad guy here.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Well he didn’t, and if he did the Hobbit trilogy would have been pure gibberish and the fans would have trashed him for walking away and not saving the project.


I don’t remember any pitchforks outside of Guillermo del Toro’s house when he walked away from The Hobbit. The initial deal was for 2 movies and Jackson added the third because he thought he had enough story to tell.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:42 pm to
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The initial deal was for 2 movies and Jackson added the third because he thought he had enough story to tell.


I’m pretty sure as that clip shows that he said the exact opposite. You can tell with the final battle that they had no idea what they were doing in it. The only real thing that was important there was to give Thorin an impactful death, which they succeeded on that front.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:44 pm to
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It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made,” Jackson wrote. “Recently Fran [Walsh], Phil[lippa Boyens] and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie — and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.’
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:22 pm to
Yeah, Peter may have said that at the time, but quickly fessed up with how Part 3 ended.
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:44 pm to
Holy shite. This -

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It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made,” Jackson wrote. “Recently Fran [Walsh], Phil[lippa Boyens] and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie — and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.’


This what I said in my previous post. You went off telling me I know jack shite. Yet this is what PJ said. Sounds like he had creative freedom.

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Yeah, Peter may have said that at the time, but quickly fessed up with how Part 3 ended.


Way to move the goal post. I wonder if Peter said this after the poor responses to the movies.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:44 pm to
The lotr universe got 3 shitty movies some shitty animated movies and the shitty amazon series.


Are you one of the ones that cried everyday over the rings of power?


How can you throw all the star wars in there and completely overlook the lotr stuff you absolutely hated?
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:27 pm to
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Are you one of the ones that cried everyday over the rings of power?


That’s an understatement. Dude had a complete mental breakdown every week Bezos dropped an episode and I don’t even think he was even watching them. Season 2 is going to be entertaining to say the least
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 6:28 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Are you one of the ones that cried everyday over the rings of power?


Actually I swore it off and didn’t watch it. And from what everyone has told me, it was a fricking dumpster fire as expected.

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How can you throw all the star wars in there and completely overlook the lotr stuff you absolutely hated?


Because those didn’t directly harm the original source material and can be disregarded completely.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:59 pm to
When my high school girlfriend gave me The Hobbit to read. I thought it was silly and stopped right there.

In all fairness I must confess that I never could convince myself to read A Somg of Cire and I e. Maybe fantasy
fiction isn’t my jam.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:04 pm to
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For those of us who lived through both original movie trilogies, Star Wars was the first.

When LOTR came out, the comparisons started, because they are both epic fantasy trilogies at the top of their respective genres, and both elevated those genres in public perception and cultural significance.


I resemble that remark.

SW certainly got far more fanfare and attention. It's sad to see what was once so fun and encompassing as Star Wars turn into a bitter sad husk of its former glory. The hysteria from Star Wars, for its time, might only be compared to that of The Beatles. (which was before my time) During the late 70's, post-Vietnam era, the world needed something amazing and new. I think that's in part what helped make SW into the success it became.

Tolkien reigns supreme in the fantasy genre. Peter Jackson's movies, though not perfect, gave fans so much of the spirit of Tolkien.

While both trilogies were phenomena in their own rights, I'd say SW caused more pop culture hype while Peter Jackson's LOTR was a superior movie and story.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
3104 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:40 am to
Actually, the original Star Wars trilogy (which the reason for sequels) collectively earned $999,027,284.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy original release earned $2,945,400,000.

…you’re a bit off.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 6:51 am
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