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Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?

Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck
NY mostly via Laplace
Member since Sep 2023
244 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:18 am
Deion Sanders is obviously the blueprint for this. Will more schools try to mimic this model going forward?

Basically find an ex NFL star and get donors to buy in and raise a bunch of money to pay top players to coke to the school. Schools may not need the best “coach” in terms of football coaching acumen. Sure you need to know something. But are some teams are going to be less concerned than before about finding the next Saban and instead try to find the next Sanders.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21347 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:20 am to
Well let’s let them beat some good teams before we anoint this model a success

And I have been wondering the same thing FWIW
Posted by Hogssmellgood
Hog in Vol land
Member since Nov 2012
2110 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:28 am to
I also think it’s going to be very difficult to replicate what he’s done. Deion is 1 of 1 in this situation when it comes to fame, branding, etc. you aren’t going to hire someone like him because there is nobody else like him in that profession. And Even if he goes like 2-6 the rest of the way, he has shown that he’s much more as a coach than the things I listed earlier. The fact that he has gotten a team of 80+ new guys to play this well together is impressive. Not many other coaches are going to be able to do that. He also knows enough to hire two really good coordinators and let them do their thing. Teams are for sure going to try and replicate this, but they probably won’t be as successful.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61347 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:30 am to
No. We don't even know the end to Deion yet. How will Deion fare once his son is gone?
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
543 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:34 am to
For every Deion, there’s 20 other former NFL players who can’t even win at the HS level.

Only a few players would have the pop culture impact Deion has, and those guys probably have no interest in coaching college football. I bet Deion would never have done it if it wasn’t for his sons.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:35 am to
It’s all about selling the program. Deion has quality assistant coaches. Prime is no dummy. He says all of the right things about His program and his opponents. He loves God and wants to promote closeness to his players like a father figure. He appeals to young kids who want to feel cared for. That’s exactly what a coach should do. Hell…I am 55 years old and I would like to be around Prime for a month or two. Sanders personality is infectious.

In the end, it’s about making plays on the field and can Colorado build a roster like an Ohio state or Alabama or Georgia ? That’s the Prime question.

Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:42 am to
You may want to google Herm Edwards.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:49 am to
So Herm Edwards?

I'd be very interested to see if Mike Vrabel could work at Ohio State. Dude is a leader of men, has great defensive coaching skills, but I seriously doubt he could coddle enough to be a good recruiter.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 8:52 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15847 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:50 am to
Saying Deion is a blueprint for this model is like saying Brady is the blueprint for drafting a 6th rd QB to win titles…they are a 1-off
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10792 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:53 am to
Let's see what Deion does today with Oregon and the rest of the season. Next year he'll lose his elite QB and almost certainly lose his elite OC who was the best offseason hire in college football. Definitely give Deion credit for that but he's going to have to find another one. One thing we know about even the best CFB coaches, when you start having to replace great coordinators it can get dicey if you don't make the right hire
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
6320 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:04 am to
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Schools may not need the best "coach" in terms of football coaching acumen. Sure you need to know something. But are some teams are going to be less concerned than before about finding the next Saban and instead try to find the next Sanders.
College coaching or a head coach in college I should say has really hardly little to do with the x and o's or acumen as you said, it much more deals with the overall managing or delegation of the program more than anything, they are basically a general manager. Someone like Prime is really great for that role because he knows how to handle people and finesse them into doing what he wants them to do with his great charisma and all. A college head coach wears many hats from managing as I said to being a charming recruiter with players and their parents, managing his staff to see that they're doing their jobs, managing the players and every issue that comes up with them, scheduling meetings all of the time with staff, boosters, players, fans, etc., and I can go and on, but you get it.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83546 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:05 am to
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So Herm Edwards?
Dude, no kids give a shite about old arse Herm Edwards
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:12 am to
Ed O had this model first be the figure head ceo. This works as long as you keep bringing good coaches onto the staff. Once the ceo like Miles or O starts to try to dictate style to the oc and dc it falls apart.

This method is nothing new. Hell dabo had made people think he is a great coach off it. The man is basically a wr coach and cheerleader. He is good at recruiting and overall team build. He had elite oc and dc that handled the schemes
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15362 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:24 am to
Not everyone can do what Deion has done. For reference, legendary Tennessee Titans runningback is coaching FCS team Tennessee State University. He's only in his 3rd year, but he hasn't had a winning season yet.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27341 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:29 am to
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Well let’s let them beat some good teams before we anoint this model a success



Boosters aint gonna want to wait
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:22 am to
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No. We don't even know the end to Deion yet. How will Deion fare once his son is gone?



Get another top prospect with a similar skill set?

People didn't think Shadeur was much of anything because he was at JSU, now it's how do they replace him?
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
6320 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:06 am to
And you're right about Shedeur.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45570 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Ed O had this model first be the figure head ceo. This works as long as you keep bringing good coaches onto the staff. Once the ceo like Miles or O starts to try to dictate style to the oc and dc it falls apart.


Wasn’t Larry Coker doing this 20 years before Coach O?
Posted by hammer5365
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
1250 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:25 pm to
Our Bobby Bowden
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:33 pm to
Used car salesman with pockets full of money?
Yes.
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