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ATL Thread 5/9 | Off-Day | AA making moves.

Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:41 pm
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The #Braves today acquired INF Zack Short from the Boston Red Sox in exchange for cash considerations.
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The #Braves have acquired a player to be named later or cash considerations from the Los Angeles Angels in exchange for INF Luis Guillorme.




It’s starting to feel financially flexible around here.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:48 pm to
Rumor on Twitter/X is that Guillorme was not passing the clubhouse vibe check.

Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:09 pm to
Well he played for the Mets
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:26 pm to
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clubhouse vibe check.


DUIs and a few boxing bouts against a crazy wife passes it?
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:08 pm to
Anything anyone says about Marcells presence in the clubhouse is always overwhelming positive. Off the field legal issues aside.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Anything anyone says about Marcells presence in the clubhouse is always overwhelming positive. Off the field legal issues aside.



Yeah I don't think those things make you bad in a clubhouse. I just think clubhouse concerns are overstated, and thats a shining example. They have every reason not to like Ozuna, but everyone does anyway.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:10 pm to
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I just think clubhouse concerns are overstated, and thats a shining example


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If a guy is good in the clubhouse, he's good in the clubhouse. Overstated would be if they had a bunch of guys known to dickheads in the clubhouse but still won anyway.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:24 pm to
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VolSquatch

Man, what are you trying to say?
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:26 pm to
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They have every reason not to like Ozuna

Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:48 pm to
I think it’s pretty obvious that if someone who is a PoS can be beloved in a clubhouse, then concerns about will X player fit in the clubhouse” are overstated. These guys are being paid millions to play a game, they don’t give af if someone is awkward, a shitter, or a saint. It just doesn’t matter.

Guillorme was just not very good
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 5:12 pm to
I think it matters, but who knows.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:52 pm to
Haha you’ve clearly never played competitive sports.

He was traded because he’s not going to see the field.
Posted by CBP3110
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:53 pm to
It definitely matters to have a great clubhouse vibe.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:48 pm to
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He was traded because he’s not going to see the field.


So “because he’s just not good” like I said?

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Haha you’ve clearly never played competitive sports.


Yeah your travel ball team where you were probably the 8th best player really compares to the major leagues your shitty high school team isn’t the military either, you weren’t in the trenches playing some AA school with a pitcher who threw 65mph fastballs

It’s an absolutely laughable argument to compare anything outside of MLB to MLB. Those guys are employees, not brothers or comrades
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:52 pm to
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DUIs and a few boxing bouts against a crazy wife passes it?


Beating up your wife has nothing to do with bringing in the vibes on a baseball team.

Reality is, most pro athletes are pieces of shite, so shite that happens outside of the stadium doesn't really affect anything unless it seeps into the clubhouse.

Chipper Jones by all accounts was a redneck womanizer and Greg Maddux was/is a fricking weird individual who was slightly on the spectrum. But that had nothing to do with the vibes (unless Maddux was wiping his arse with a teammates' shirt and putting it back in the locker).

You're conflating two different things to make a point.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:57 pm to
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Chipper Jones by all accounts was a redneck womanizer and Greg Maddux was/is a fricking weird individual who was slightly on the spectrum. But that had nothing to do with the vibes (unless Maddux was wiping his arse with a teammates' shirt and putting it back in the locker).


If you look like two comments down that’s exactly my point lol. This shite doesn’t matter. They are professionals paid millions of dollars, not riding a bus to some obscure single a team together or playing travel ball 9 days per week because “i’m definitely going pro”
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:00 pm to
Per DOB, the Braves think Short is a much better defensive shortstop than Guillorme and view him as a pinch runner option. They see Fletcher as more of a utility guy and didn't think they had anyone who could handle short if something happened to Arcia.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71156 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:24 pm to
But Ozuna is a good clubhouse guy, regardless of what he did to his wife. Is it the end all be all for a successful team? Nah, but there is merit to having dudes like that, especially dudes that speak both english and spanish.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5475 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:59 pm to
Seeing that guy in short when arcia got injured was too funny.
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