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re: 3 Kansas City Chiefs fans found frozen to death outside home of friend

Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:05 am to
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:05 am to
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Someone having to break a window to get your attention and then answering your door in boxers holding a wine glass tells me drugs


It was two days after they passed, he was in his bed drinking a glass of wine, watching TV with noise canceling headphones according to the police report.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31061 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:30 am to
LINK

This article was in one of the links. An example of a group fentanyl overdose where the one survivor woke up like 15 hours later to everyone else dead.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3407 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:49 am to
There was a strange story awhile back when a group of soldiers were found dead in a car together in an off base parking lot. Turned out they were sitting/sleeping in their car after a night out and died of carbon monoxide poisoning. I wonder if something like that happened? Maybe they started feeling sick and were able to get out of the car but passed out in the yard and froze to death?

Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:52 am to
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How do people this old just disappear for 3 days and no one asks any questions?


What? It was 2 days, and it's pretty clear that people were--and are--asking a ton of questions. And they didn't "disappear," they never came home. I'm sure whoever wound up worrying about them started off by being pissed at them 1st for not coming home and then not answering their phones. And they were in their 30s, so it's not like parents worrying over the whereabouts of their kids. My wife's anger at me at 37 would have lasted a lot longer before it turned to worry than my parents' would have when I was 17.

But either way, the game kicked off at 3:30, probably ending close to 7 and well past dark. No matter how old I was, my loved ones would have assumed I just got shite-housed, couldn't drive, and passed out. And they would have been some level of furious at least until sometime the next morning if I still wasn't answering my phone. I'm not sure when the fury would have turned to concern. I guess a lot would depend on if I had a recent history of doing something similar. Which I personally didn't at 37, but certainly did at other points in my life. Who knows how these dudes got down.

We need a timeline on when the texts went from "frick you, you worthless piece of shite. If you're not home in the next 15 minutes, don't even bother coming home at all" to "Where are you? Are you ok?" Speaking of timeline, have they determined time of death yet? Because the article said the temps were in the 30s on the 7th and 8th and didn't dip into the teens until the 9th (Tuesday). So probably early on the 9th, which would likely be considered late Monday night. I suppose you could technically freeze to death with the temps in the 30s, but these dudes look like they could survive 30 hours of that before it dipped into the teens. But why would they have had to?

Super strange. Anxious to see the toxicology and autopsy reports. Wild, Dyatlov Pass-type mystery as of now.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35746 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:33 am to
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Super strange. Anxious to see the toxicology and autopsy reports. Wild, Dyatlov Pass-type mystery as of now.


People are way over thinking this.

I shamefully in my teens (not used to Tequila, not used to any drinking) passed out drunk on a beach in Cancun.

Knew I was plastered. Went out for air, as drunk people like to wander.

Bar was on the Beach. A Bartender woke me up the next day. Luckily this happened in warm summer Mexico air.

These guys went outside for a myriad of reasons...to smoke, piss, attempt to drive home, do what drunk people do, wander stupidly.

But this isn't some Dyatlov Pass incident. People pass out for a myriad of intoxicant.

The fact that they were in different places spread out, shows they were wandering separately fricked up. That's why no foul play is suspected.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:48 am to
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But this isn't some Dyatlov Pass incident.


I wasn't suggesting it would end like this, just that it currently is with what little we know.

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People pass out for a myriad of intoxicant.


No doubt. And I'm sure it will make more sense when the toxicology reports and times of death come out. But it is an intriguing mystery at least until then.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:07 am to
the lawyer said the cars were not in the driveway, they were parked on the street

weird story
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:48 am to
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The media won't talk about it because it's a border/protectionist (Republican) leaning issue
bullshite. The media is all over fentanyl.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:10 pm to
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just like hundreds of thousands of other "sudden deaths" rampaging our society.
maybe all 3 just got booster shots and had heart attacks out side after the game
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4439 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:14 pm to
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the living guy is a fricking PHD and working on aids research? was not expecting that
Look up Kary Mullis. You might have to dig some, to get beyond the Nobel Prize.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20625 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:08 pm to
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the lawyer said the cars were not in the driveway, they were parked on the street weird story


That’s not strange when the driveway is an incline and it’s icey. Very normal actually.

There’s a 5th guy now?

I don’t think it’s strange a guy got hammered and went outside and passed out and died. The fact 3 guys all did it, is definitely strange.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:16 pm to
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probably on some hard shite, passed out and died.


Fentanyl is a hell of a drug.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
87594 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:21 pm to
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That’s not strange when the driveway is an incline and it’s icey. Very normal actually.


i didnt say the cars being parked on the street was strange

there are numerous posts about the cars being in the driveway, they were not. The lawyer also said the tenant did not know the cars the others dove, so the cars being on the street for two days didnt mean anything to the tenant.

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There’s a 5th guy now?


5th guy said the other four were all watching TV when he went to bed around midnight

the game was at 3:30PM CST and ended around 6:30M CST, so the four guys were still hanging around watching TV 5 hours later on a Sunday night?

is it possible the five were together doing drugs, the three guys OD and the two guys in some sort of narcotic driven panic drag them outside and leave them?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:35 pm to
Were they found with their clothes on? Most people who get high end up stripping off their clothes
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
87594 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Were they found with their clothes on? Most people who get high end up stripping off their clothes


news didnt say anything about them being stripped

two were found together on the patio, one was in the yard
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48342 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:45 pm to
You have to know that it’s a gigantic stretch to think that this guy doesn’t know what his friends drive. Also if he locked the entire house how did he not notice the dead guys on his porch. The lawyers statements read like nit picking possible holes in the story as if he assumes his client will be on the hook for some sort of culpability. Btw most lawyers will tell you that innocent people don’t go out and hire lawyers when they haven’t been charged with anything.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:55 pm to
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The only thing that makes sense is that they were so intoxicated that they passed out and froze or they overdoses before that.



i'm not a complete alcoholic, but i've had some well behaved benders in my time, but not sleeping for days. that's hard drugs.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:58 pm to
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bullshite. The media is all over fentanyl.



Fox News is all over Fentanyl. the rest of the media is not. not defending Fox News. they're awful.

a couple i know has a moderate husband and liberal but mostly logical wife and she said point blank that she thinks fentanyl is a right wing conspiracy to close the border with her husband shaking her head in disbelief behind her.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14093 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:15 pm to
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The weirdest thing to me is that these dudes just let themselves freeze to death,


I think they got a hot shot of coke or heroin that had fent in it and passed out in the backyard. It happens lightning fast. Then they died from exposure and the homeowner, like you said, was just on a bender and didn't go out back or think twice about the cars.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14093 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:19 pm to
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I don’t think it’s strange a guy got hammered and went outside and passed out and died. The fact 3 guys all did it, is definitely strange.


Unless they all shared the same batch of drugs.
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