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Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15834 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:03 pm
So I’ve got a question on how some of this private equity pay out works. Let’s say you go to work for a company that is majority owned by a PE firm and you get shares valued at $1.00 and the company is doing around 30 mil in revenue. You also buy in with additional investment money so total shares are 500k at $1.00 per.

I know there’s a shite ton of factors involved but what would the shares be worth if the company was doing 60 mil in year two and 150 mil in year 5? Year 5 would be the year to cash out or reinvest with the PE if they choose to do another 5 years.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 3:05 pm
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3046 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:50 pm to
Probably B shares and waterfalls are extremely complicated. You’re at the mercy of the PE firm and your CEO’s ability to negotiate. Do you know what percentage of the company your shares make up?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15834 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:51 pm to
Very small amount. Like 1% or less.

And I have two types of shares.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3046 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:33 pm to
Rule of thumb is 2.5x cash flow is the value of the company. 150mm x 2.5 x 1%= your stake in a fair world. World isn’t fair.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3185 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:25 pm to
- Do you own common shares or are you part of a mgmt. option pool?
- What type of company?
- What is the current EBITDA?
- Do you know how much leverage is on the business? Current amounts of cash and debt?

Can also connect offline if you don't want to share here. I work in IB and can build you a rough waterfall, but need more data to even get close to a realistic number.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15834 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:24 pm to
Do you own common shares or are you part of a mgmt. option pool? - Both. Around 75% was given(400k) on accepting job and we are investing the rest which is 125k.


What type of company? Don’t want to put that out there but can email you.

What is the current EBITDA? Not known

- Do you know how much leverage is on the business? Not known

Current amounts of cash and debt? No debt not sure on cash.

Can also connect offline if you don't want to share here. I work in IB and can build you a rough waterfall, but need more data to even get close to a realistic number.[/quote]
Posted by CheesyF
Member since May 2017
391 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:42 am to
Get back to the desk.

This guy does a good job of explaining things. This is a complicated topic with many variables at play.

LINK
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3185 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:34 am to
azazello996 at gmail

Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1360 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:38 am to
Don’t they have a bunch of different types of shared and only the big money investors actually get the ones that you would want?
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3046 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:51 am to
Yes. A shares get priority then waterfall down based on what they decide the rest should get.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15834 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:40 am to
Sent
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37153 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:57 am to
Ultimately, the shares are worth whatever someone will pay for them.
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