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Why does Jay hate Helmers?

Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:58 pm
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
956 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:58 pm
He didn’t pitch at all last year… He seems to have a quirky right handed arm delivery and throws in the low to mid 90s. He has a sub one ERA. But Jay continues to trout out left-handers with a five or six ERA. He almost did the same thing to Edwards last year it seemed until Edwards proved him wrong, and gave him some great innings until he blew out his arm. Then Jay was devastated to lose Edwards, when he seemed to not be in his plans to begin with…now it’s Helmers
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8132 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:01 pm to
Jay values matchups more than who might actually be the better pitcher
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
956 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:10 pm to
But he leaves Ackenhousen in there against righty and lefty hitters but pulls Helmers after one batter?…
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56795 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

He seems to have a quirky right handed arm delivery and throws in the low to mid 90s. He has a sub one ERA


That's new. He's developed kind of a Louis Coleman delivery. He's only pitched 9 innings and he's been more effective than probably anyone expected.

But, hell, he was pitching in a 1 run game on Saturday of an SEC series. That says something. I think he's going to continue to get more opportunities.

I don't think you should expect too much though. If he ends up being a RH arm that can give us an inning on the weekend, it's a nice surprise.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3274 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:38 pm to
Johnson is like a guy desperately grabbing for a life preserver. He has no answers.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4707 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Johnson is like a guy desperately grabbing for a life preserver. He has no answers.

He probably should stop reaching for the life preservers with knives, lol
Posted by KCSunshine
Midland Texas
Member since Dec 2019
506 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:27 am to
Coach J needs to be FIRED. TOMORROW He’s an imposter…maybe gambling issues like last year ALABAMAcoach. I mean tomorrow morning. Then goto the administorof Tiger Rant. Find some of you trolls and hire all YOU EXPERTS…
IFyall got nothing better to do start trolling elsewhere. Yes team has issues BUT our legendary fan base needs to CHILL
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4707 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:35 am to
LOL, ok did you forget to take your Prozac today?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39895 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:31 am to
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Jay values matchups more than who might actually be the better pitcher

Boosie, do you think Helmers is as good a pitcher as Ackenhausen? Helmers is a good guy, but he is not good enough for an LSU scholarship. With his stuff, he’d have to be 5 mph faster to get a look nowadays. He’s a holdover from when Mainieri wasn’t putting any effort into recruiting.

As for Helmer’s 1 era? That’s just not representative. He has probably been used mostly against midweek hitters and in such short stints that it’s hard to give up an earned run. It’s a stat of limited usefulness. At the very least it should only be considered for pitchers who enter innings with no outs.
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2128 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:39 am to
Jay is stuck in the past with the pitchers who performed well in Omaha but have sucked this year. Hurd, Ack, & Guidry. He will die on that hill and LSU will miss the NCAA tournament because of it.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 5:41 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3385 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:52 am to
quote:

With his stuff, he’d have to be 5 mph faster to get a look nowadays


So he would have to throw 99mph to get a look?
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
5922 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:53 am to
Hellmers is on his third pitching coach in four years.
The 3/4 to side arm delivery is new and they began working on it last year, but reverted back to his normal delivery for a bit, and he was slightly injured near the end of the season.
His new delivery give better movement to his slider which he worked on over the fall.
Finally, he has been used in a few leverage situations in SEC games, so Yeskie and JJ obviously like him for matchups.
Its not that hard to figure out.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:55 am to
He may be hide-bound when it comes to L/R matchups.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77963 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:56 am to
The only reason i can think as to why he was pulled yesterday is because he was exhausted from throwing 145 pitches in the bullpen over 24 hours
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40302 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:28 am to
Can’t handle that Catholic league swag.

But few can. Not gonna hammer him over it.
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