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NCAA used to prohibit certain jersey numbers in basketball?

Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:17 am
Reading this article about Jordan Wright switching to #6 this year. He used to be #4, but couldn't have the number he wanted because
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Under Rule 1, Section 22, Article 7 (Uniforms), players previously were only allowed to wear numbers 0 or 00, 1-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45 and 50-55.

Did anybody else know this, I honestly had no idea certain numbers were restricted. And what was the logic only allowing blocks of 5? This feels like a rule that existed just to be a rule

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Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:18 am to
this isn’t only a crazy rule but it’s crazy I never knew this befoee
Posted by damnstrongfan
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:21 am to
Please don't link to an article that requires a subscription.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:26 am to
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And what was the logic only allowing blocks of 5? This feels like a rule that existed just to be a rule
It was a rule made for the refs.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:27 am to
A crazy rule of the sort used to exist in Louisiana high school basketball back in the 1970's. The players on the home team had to wear even-numbered jerseys, and the visiting team had to wear odd-numbered jerseys.

So a player who wore number 12 for home games would wear 11 or 13 for road games. Maybe there was a good reason, but I don't know what it was.

ETA: The player also had to raise his hand when he was called for a foul.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:36 am
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:27 am to
Yea ref's tell the scorekeeper fouls using hand signals so having everything 0-5 made it simple... Though not totally necessary.
Posted by LSUfosho
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:27 am to
It has to do with the hand gesture the ref gives the scorers table to signal which player the foul is on.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:28 am to
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And what was the logic only allowing blocks of 5?

If you read the article, the logic is there. I don't agree with it, but the rationale is spelled out

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Rule 1, Section 22, Article 7, Clause b. 2 currently allows numbers to include 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, making it easy for officials to signal fouls. Their right hand indicates the first digit and left hand indicates the second digit.

The proposal would let players wear Nos. 0-99 this season, bringing college basketball in line with the NBA after adhering to the same rules as the National Federation of State High School Associations since the 1960s.

While some might argue the change could cause miscommunication between the official and scorer’s table, with the hand signals for No. 9 possibly being mistaken for the No. 54, NBA officials don’t seem to have those issues.

Another uniform-related proposal includes no longer requiring players to submit a waiver to wear religious headwear on the court. Both rules will be reviewed by the NCAA Playing Rules Committee on June 8.

Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:30 am to
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Did anybody else know this, I honestly had no idea certain numbers were restricted. And what was the logic only allowing blocks of 5? This feels like a rule that existed just to be a rule


It's to make signaling the jersey numbers to the scores table easier for refs.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:31 am to
How does an American male NOT know this? Did they no one play basketball in your town growing up?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Yea ref's tell the scorekeeper fouls using hand signals so having everything 0-5 made it simple... Though not totally necessary.


that actually makes a ton of sense.
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:36 am to
I heard this rule a while back. I was told it was so the ref could signal the fouling players by using both hands. So 15 would be 1 on one hand and 5 on the other.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:47 am to
I guess a person missing a finger was out of luck applying for a job as an official. Probably why they changed the rule.
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:49 am to
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I guess a person missing a finger was out of luck applying for a job as an official. Probably why they changed the rule.


or someone was like "why don't we just say the number louder"
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:55 am to
Yes if you coached or had a kid playing basketball you’d know
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:29 am to
Yes. Everyone who followed college basketball with any degree of interest over the last 50+ years or so knew this was a rule. That's why I was surprised when I saw Wright with his #6 jersey.


I don't know if the NBA ever had the rule. But if it did, it went away a long time ago.

I get the rationale for the rule because it may be difficult for the score keeper to hear the number of who the foul is on in a loud arena. That said, the NBA seems to manage just fine. The only real difference is the ref will now have to go to the scorers table to tell the scorer who the foul is on rather than just signal...which is not that big of a deal.
Posted by CheerWhine
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:32 am to
Yeah, this was commonplace for a long time. The idea was that refs could signal a certain player (usually for a foul) with one digit on each hand, so that only left open digits 0-5.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:36 am to
What if a ref only had 4 fingers?
Posted by Quatrepot
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:12 pm to
It’s because officials only have 5 fingers to signal fouls.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:35 pm to
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And what was the logic only allowing blocks of 5? This feels like a rule that existed just to be a rule

Refs only have 5 fingers, so I guess when they signal who the foul is on they could only use those blocks. Really dumb considering holding up 6 and then say 7 is universally understood as 67.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 1:36 pm
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