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Is Vitello a better recruiter and offensive coach than Jay

Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:25 pm
Every year Vitello’s team has one of the best and deepest lineups in the country. Yes CJJ assembled a great team last year, but 2 of his 3 years at LSU offensive has been lacking. While at Arizona his offenses weren’t exactly nationally recognized.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:26 pm to
Tennessee should have a dominant offense every year with that ballpark. Just looking at numbers is not fair. Of course they’d be better this year in any ballpark, but the point still stands.
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:30 pm to
Based off times to Omaha and success there…no
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:36 pm to
i reckon when Johnson is in hist 7th season at LSU, you will say ' man he has a lot of talent' too
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
29317 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:41 pm to
Seriously, what is with the ability of our fans to compare coaches in completely different situations?!?

My favorite is Kim Mulkey vs Pear but nonetheless you would think the every day fan that watches LSU understands Jay Jonson hasn’t had half the time to build his program like Vitello has. Or maybe not.
Posted by birddog14
DFW Texas
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:42 pm to
Vitello has taken TN to the CWS twice
first time they went 0-2 they lost to Viginia and Texas
second time they went 1-2, they beat Stanford and lost 2 games to LSU

his record at TN in Omaha is 1 win 4 losses

in 6 years as the TN head coach he has 2 CWS appearances..give Jay 6 years at LSU and see where he is

Jay in his second year in 2023 at LSU led the team 6-2 (6 wins, 2 losses), and a NC at Omaha

give Jay a while to get his recruits to campus before you compare, but he already has 6X as many wins in Omaha at LSU ;)
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 8:58 pm
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:54 pm to
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but 2 of his 3 years at LSU offensive has been lacking


So you are saying this year and what other year?
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:59 pm to
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Every year Vitello’s team has one of the best and deepest lineups in the country.
surely he should have more than 1 Omaha win right?
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:07 pm to
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While at Arizona his offenses weren’t exactly nationally recognized.


Huh? His teams at Arizona led the Pac 12 in batting average 4 of the 5 full seasons he coached there.

His 2021 team was top 10 in the country in BA, runs scored, slugging and several other offensive categories.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:12 pm to
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Huh? His teams at Arizona led the Pac 12 in batting average 4 of the 5 full seasons he coached there.


PAC 12 is a very weak conference, very weak. But I do believe Jay Johnson was a great hire and is a great coach.

But Pac 12 is very weak, I mean weak weak.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:15 pm to
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But Pac 12 is very weak, I mean weak weak.


No it’s not
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:15 pm to
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PAC 12 is a very weak conference, very weak. But I do believe Jay Johnson was a great hire and is a great coach. But Pac 12 is very weak, I mean weak weak


it routinely gets teams to the CWS and they’ve won a few.

Oregon State, Arizona, UCLA, Stanford all have pretty solid programs.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95845 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:16 pm to
Vitello is absolutely elite. What he has done/is consistently doing at Tennessee is remarkable.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Every year Vitello’s team has one of the best and deepest lineups in the country.


And nothing to show for it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95845 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:21 pm to
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And nothing to show for it
winning baseball at Tennessee is like Vandy being good at football
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:26 pm to
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winning baseball at Tennessee is like Vandy being good at football
not even close to the same. Rod Delmonico was at least winning conference titles in the 90’s during Skip’s dynasty run.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95845 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:29 pm to
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not even close to the same. Rod Delmonico was at least winning conference titles in the 90’s during Skip’s dynasty run.
before vitello tennesse had 3 SEC titles in baseball. Only Kentucky had less…..

They only made Omaha 4 times ever before vitello. They had a horrific program
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:31 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64899 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:32 pm to
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winning baseball at Tennessee is like Vandy being good at football

That’s certainly a take
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2076 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:33 pm to
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They only made Omaha 4 times ever before vitello. They had a horrific program
and you’re comparing them to one of the worst P5 jobs in all of college football in Vandy. Better comparison would be Kentucky.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95845 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:33 pm to
I mean only one school had fewer SEC titles than Tennessee in baseball. Exactly who would you like to compare them to? Kentucky?

Ok fine. Tennessee baseball was like Kentucky football. Now they are year in and year out one of the best. Pretty impressive
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:35 pm
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