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re: I don’t think they are taking 11 SEC teams
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:40 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:40 am to SammyTiger
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we won 36 games
People keep overlooking this.
If we win 1 or 2 in Hoover, it’s going to be hard to justify keeping a 37-38 win team out.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 5:42 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:29 am to The Boat
How did the tigers head to head vs the other 13-17 teams - they unfortunately lost every series
Vandy
Florida
Bama
It’s a bummer
Vandy
Florida
Bama
It’s a bummer
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:47 am to Gorilla Ball
@Gorilla Ball
You’re right on the head to head, which is an issue for LSU, but 2 of them will take a loss in game 1 since they’re playing one another.
If the Tigers win game 1 vs UGA and those two are eliminated even if we lose game 2 in SEC Tourney we’ll still have one more SEC Win than two of them, so I believe winning vs Georgia is a must to feel confident.
You’re right on the head to head, which is an issue for LSU, but 2 of them will take a loss in game 1 since they’re playing one another.
If the Tigers win game 1 vs UGA and those two are eliminated even if we lose game 2 in SEC Tourney we’ll still have one more SEC Win than two of them, so I believe winning vs Georgia is a must to feel confident.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:53 am to Allthatfades
Win and make it impossible to deny LSU a spot.
I know one thing, if I'm a team hosting a regional and see LSU pop up on the screen, I'm getting worried and wondering why the NCAA hates me.
I know one thing, if I'm a team hosting a regional and see LSU pop up on the screen, I'm getting worried and wondering why the NCAA hates me.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 7:08 am to Allthatfades
quote:
I don’t think
We’d like you to keep your thoughts to yourself.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 7:17 am to Allthatfades
They could and should if they are better than other teams out there. Should not be penalized for being in any conference where a number of other teams were selected. Number of teams from any conference should not even factor in.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 7:50 am to Tigerik
I agree. But our head to head vs the other 13-17 teams is bad and our rpi is lower. We certainly need to beat Georgia Tuesday
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:06 am to Allthatfades
Nah. It’s gonna be more record over last 10 or 15 weighted more heavily than head to head.
Now truth is there are holes in all the 13-17 SEC teams and any could legitimately be not invited.
But playing well recently is likely to weigh more.
Now truth is there are holes in all the 13-17 SEC teams and any could legitimately be not invited.
But playing well recently is likely to weigh more.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:30 am to MikeTheTiger71
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You still haven’t come up with your list of the 15 teams behind LSU in the RPI that would get at-large bids ahead of them. Certainly with you so sure of yourself, you must have done the research.
KPI or RPI?
Biggest misconceptions by people on here:
1. LSU somehow gets a boost from being defending champions
2. LSU has an advantage over UF - this is categorically false based on head to head alone - lot series AT HOME. UF had a FAR MLRE DIFFICULT SOS and had their tougher series on the back end where LSU had theirs on the front end. Seeding in the conference matters and LSU is at 11.
3. LSU has an advantage over Vandy - again false. Lost the head to head AT HOME.
4. SEC will get in 10 teams - remotely not a given.
5. LSU has an advantage over Bama - again head to head comes first in separating teams.
6. Bids won’t get stolen in 1 bid conferences and by default some of those conferences will get 2 teams in.
7. How you finish matters. Partially true if the SOS was difficult. If you play the worst teams in the conference, what does it say?
1 Tenn
UGA
Arky
MSU
TAMU
UF
Bama
Vandy
You can point to UF or Bama losses as the biggest issue.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:27 am to Tiger1988
quote:
Biggest misconceptions by people on here:
quote:
1. LSU somehow gets a boost from being defending champions
Agree. LSU gets no boost from last year
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2. LSU has an advantage over UF - this is categorically false based on head to head alone - lot series AT HOME. UF had a FAR MLRE DIFFICULT SOS and had their tougher series on the back end where LSU had theirs on the front end. Seeding in the conference matters and LSU is at 1
Completely disagree.
It has been shown time and time again that order of finish in conf does NOT matter. That has been the case in basketball for quite a while and has bled over into baseball. The order of finish is not even listed on the team sheets the committee gets.
Head to head has little bearing as well. The committee looks at the OVERALL resume. Not just a few games. In 2022 Ole Miss was selected. At the end of the regular season they were 32-21 (14-16). South Carolina had one less win that Ole Miss in SEC play. However, South Carolina beat Ole Miss in a head to head series. SC didn't get selected.
In 2021 LSU and Georgia had identical 13-17 SEC records. They played each other in the SECT with Georgia being seeded AHEAD of LSU. Georgia won the game. I'm sure you, like many others, were on the verge of jumping out of a 10 story building after the lost. LSU made the NCAAT. Georgia didn't...despite being seeded ahead of LSU and winning the head to head matchup. It DID NOT MATTER.
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3. LSU has an advantage over Vandy - again false. Lost the head to head AT HOME
See above
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SEC will get in 10 teams - remotely not a given.
Agree. Definitely not a given
Florida is not getting in. 28-26 isn't going to cut it. Playin a tough schedule is great. But you actually have to win many of the games. They didn't.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:12 pm to Tiger1988
quote:Scheduling difficult teams, and beating them are 2 different things. LSU is 18-18 vs Q1 + Q2, Fla is 15-23 (also 2-2 vs Q3).
or could it be the flip between scheduling for UF and LSU?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:44 pm to Tiger1988
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6. Bids won’t get stolen in 1 bid conferences and by default some of those conferences will get 2 teams in.
I think most people have argued things based on how things stand today. There are only 5 one-bid leagues where the conference leader would get an at-large bid if they are bounced out of the tournament and the CAA and Big East both have 1-2 teams that might get at-large bids anyway, so they might not even be 1-bid leagues anyway. Even if extreme chaos, there are no more than 5 bids being stolen. So, maybe 15 teams behind LSU won’t have to get at-larges, but it’s at least 10 and more likely 12-13. So, who are your 10-13 teams? Stop just comparing LSU to the other SEC teams. Now do TCU, KSU, UCF, Cincinnati, Ga Tech, Louisville, Coastal Carolina, Troy, UNCW, Charleston, James Madison, etc.
As to the SEC teams I have seen no one argue LSU ahead of Alabama. D1Baseball has SC and Vandy behind LSU. Historically teams with records like Florida’s do not make it in. LSU has the best non-conference results of any of those teams and is finishing stronger. There’s good reason to think at least 1-2 of those teams would be out before LSU. Even if they aren’t, there aren’t 10-15 at large teams behind LSU getting in from other conferences.
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