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First baseman had wrong foot on the bag restricting his ability to stretch for the throw
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:05 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:05 am
The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag which would have allowed for him to stretch further and possibly catch the ball. That is a basic fundamental but I see this improper footwork frequently by today's players. I would like to see a a clear video of the play but it sure seems like he could have caught it using proper mechanics.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 7:11 am
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:08 am to tigersbb
I don't think so. in this case.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:12 am to tigersbb
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:14 am to tigersbb
False
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:19 am to tigersbb
Now analyze everything the catcher did on the play.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:23 am to tigersbb
Unlike a routine grounder to another infield spot, on that play with a throw coming from behind the runner down the 1st base line, the 1st baseman is supposed to square up to the catcher on either the outside or inside of the bag and give them a target/throwing lane.
Pretty standard stuff. Jones did what he was supposed to do.
Pretty standard stuff. Jones did what he was supposed to do.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:24 am to tigersbb
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That is a basic fundamental but I see this improper footwork frequently by today's players.
No it isn’t
If the throw was where it was supposed to be then he was in the correct position for it. He would’ve been in the baseline if he stretched with his right foot on the bag.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:25 am to PigDog33
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Now analyze everything the catcher did on the play.
A basic fundamental of first base play is to be in the best possible position to catch any throw tot he base regardless of whether another player makes a less than perfect throw. Its clear looking at the video just posted that if Jones had his right foot on the inside corner of the base with his height he very likely catches the ball. At worse he would have been in better position to step off the base toward home plate and catch the ball and the game is only tied.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:27 am to DallasTiger45
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Unlike a routine grounder to another infield spot, on that play with a throw coming from behind the runner down the 1st base line, the 1st baseman is supposed to square up to the catcher on either the outside or inside of the bag and give them a target/throwing lane.
And the catcher has to throw it right at him. If it’s thrown too far left or right, the first baseman is screwed. It’s a tough play, which is why Milazzo should not have called the pitcher off. Getting the runner out at home was the safest play.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:33 am to tigersbb
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag
On a ball coming from the catcher??? Jones was squared up and in the right position. It was a horrible throw guys. Leave it alone. Milazzo makes that 19 out of 20 times but didn’t last night.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:35 am to tigersbb
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if Jones had his right foot on the inside corner of the base with his height he very likely catches the ball. At worse he would have been in better position to step off the base
There is no reaction time on a ball that fast coming from that distance. The throw was bad. Stop trying to blame Jones.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:38 am to notbilly
What I don't understand is why Milazzo left home with a runner on 3rd. Situational baseball failure. If he stays home and herring fields it coming forward, safest play is to toss home where your catcher should be. Worst thing that happens is the runner is safe and the game is tied.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:39 am to tigersbb
Does Chicken get a cut from Milazzo’s PR agency?
The decision and throw from the catcher was horrendous. Watch the play. That ball was thrown into another area code.
The decision and throw from the catcher was horrendous. Watch the play. That ball was thrown into another area code.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:39 am to Tigerfan14
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If the throw was where it was supposed to be then he was in the correct position for it. He would’ve been in the baseline if he stretched with his right foot on the bag.
Freeze the video at the point where the ball disappears from view and the runner is two steps from the base. At that point with his right foot on the base he may have been able to stretch far enough to get the out. Even if he had to leave the bag he would still be leading with his gloved hand and would have been able to catch it and attempt a sweep tag. There would be no reason for him to be in the base line if he jumps out and catches the ball.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:41 am to tigersbb
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag which would have allowed for him to stretch further and possibly catch the ball. That is a basic fundamental but I see this improper footwork frequently by today's players. I would like to see a a clear video of the play but it sure seems like he could have caught it using proper mechanics.
Yes I’m sure having his right foot on the bag, meaning his back would be facing where the throw went, would have greatly increased his chances of catching the ball.
He did what he was supposed to do
I will continue to wear being told on this board “you don’t know baseball” as a badge of honor
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:42 am to tigersbb
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag
This is not true when receiving a ball from home.
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That is a basic fundamental but I see this improper footwork frequently by today's players.
You were taught incorrectly.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:42 am to notbilly
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if Jones had his right foot on the inside corner of the base with his height he very likely catches the ball. At worse he would have been in better position to step off the base
Maybe you are saying something not the way you meant to, because that makes no sense. You're saying he should have set up to the outside of the basepath and have the catcher throw directly across the front of the runner? Or your saying if Jones would have lined up to where the catcher was accidentally throwing it, then he would have caught it.....well yeah.
Jones had the position correct, he could have made himself a bigger target and more to the inside, but he shouldn't have had to. Its on the catcher.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:45 am to tigersbb
Jones makes the play if Milazzo doesn’t try to throw it like he’s a shortstop.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:47 am to 3rdPart Tiger
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Jones makes the play if Milazzo doesn’t try to throw it like he’s a shortstop.
This is it right here. The over-zealous call off of Herring and the showboat throw over are what doomed him. Set your feet and make a routine throw. Wasn’t his ball in the first place. Ball damn near made it to the mound.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:48 am to tigersbb
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Freeze the video at the point where the ball disappears from view and the runner is two steps from the base. At that point with his right foot on the base he may have been able to stretch far enough to get the out. Even if he had to leave the bag he would still be leading with his gloved hand and would have been able to catch it and attempt a sweep tag. There would be no reason for him to be in the base line if he jumps out and catches the ball.
You don’t get the point. Even if him stretching with his right foot allows him to make this play, it’s fundamentally incorrect. He is supposed to square up to the catcher and receive the ball away from the foul line. This isn’t a play the first baseman is supposed to be going into a stretch to catch the ball.
It’s dumb to think he should have been out of position to make up for Milazzo’s error
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