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Does non conference schedule matter?
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:09 pm
JJ has recently been touting LSU's 23-3 non conference record presumably in support of the argument that the committee should consider that for a post season berth. Has that ever been a real consideration when conference wins are underwater?
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:12 pm to Bigdibber
It doesn’t matter in this case because we played a garbage schedule! 
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:17 pm to Bigdibber
More wins = better on the surface generally. We didnt play a tough non-conf by any means but hes doing what he can to market our team to the selection committee if say we do end up 13-17 in the SEC, he can say, hey we finished with 38 wins which is a lot still, etc etc
Our RPI is still a huge issue currently sitting at 42 with only 3 Quad 1 wins (3-12 overall there).
Get the RPI in the 30s and we might start to have some traction getting an at-large bid with a 13-17 conference record and maybe 38-39 total wins.
Our RPI is still a huge issue currently sitting at 42 with only 3 Quad 1 wins (3-12 overall there).
Get the RPI in the 30s and we might start to have some traction getting an at-large bid with a 13-17 conference record and maybe 38-39 total wins.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:18 pm to Bigdibber
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JJ has recently been touting LSU's 23-3 non conference record presumably in support of the argument that the committee should consider that for a post season berth. Has that ever been a real consideration when conference wins are underwater?
It may factor in for teams who play good competition in the mid-week, but LSU doesn't do that.
Outside of the Southern debacle, they have looked good during the mid-week this season, but that's not going to matter when they end up with less than 14 wins in the conference.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:18 pm to Bigdibber
Only in basketball.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:22 pm to Bigdibber
Other than the opponents at the Astros Foundation classic probably not at all.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:06 pm to Bigdibber
Here is the argument JJ is trying to make. Let's compare LSU to Utah which is currently projected to be a #3 seed in the Norman regional and is leading the Pac 12 currently. Both teams have nearly identical win totals on the season, Utah at 29 and LSU at 28. When you look at conference records Utah is 14-7 while LSU is 7-14.
However, 5 of the PAC12 series Utah has played came against teams that have a losing record overall and a 6th, Arizona State is at .500 on the season. Utah SOS is in the 130 range and there is absolutely nothing about their out-of-conference schedule that stands out. Meanwhile, LSU has played 5 out of conference games against teams currently projected to be in the tournament and has won 4 of them.
LSU is going to end up with two conference series playing the #1 team in America one of which is now #2, as well as #3, #16, #17, and #23.
The problem is this is the system we have, and none of us would be complaining right now if LSU wasn't on the outside looking in. LSU should have handled business and won the games it should have won againts Florida and Vandy, Sweeping Mizzou, and Auburn, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. It doesn't mean there isn't an argument to be made but unfortunately it doesn't go much further than that. Maybe we get hot and the top teams in the SEC tourney rest their starters, but that seems like our best hope at this point. It is what it is.
However, 5 of the PAC12 series Utah has played came against teams that have a losing record overall and a 6th, Arizona State is at .500 on the season. Utah SOS is in the 130 range and there is absolutely nothing about their out-of-conference schedule that stands out. Meanwhile, LSU has played 5 out of conference games against teams currently projected to be in the tournament and has won 4 of them.
LSU is going to end up with two conference series playing the #1 team in America one of which is now #2, as well as #3, #16, #17, and #23.
The problem is this is the system we have, and none of us would be complaining right now if LSU wasn't on the outside looking in. LSU should have handled business and won the games it should have won againts Florida and Vandy, Sweeping Mizzou, and Auburn, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. It doesn't mean there isn't an argument to be made but unfortunately it doesn't go much further than that. Maybe we get hot and the top teams in the SEC tourney rest their starters, but that seems like our best hope at this point. It is what it is.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 4:30 pm to Bigdibber
It always matters. We’re hurting with RPI for a couple of reasons. Losing to a team like Southern when they were down to a small group of pitchers due to injury and many of our NC opponents have not had great seasons. Some have had decent seasons though. If we can win 4 of 6 against A&M and Bama it will look a lot better.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 5:53 pm to Mobiletiggah
We’re gonna play a minimum of 6, potentially 9 (if Ole Miss jumps up higher than 25 before then) Q1 games over the next 3 SEC weekends
Our RPI will improve just by playing A&M. If we beat them, or take the series, it’ll be up in the mid 30’s. Every SEC team is below 40 in the RPI with the exception of Mizzou, LSU and Auburn. LSU won’t be above 40 when the season ends.
Our RPI will improve just by playing A&M. If we beat them, or take the series, it’ll be up in the mid 30’s. Every SEC team is below 40 in the RPI with the exception of Mizzou, LSU and Auburn. LSU won’t be above 40 when the season ends.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:04 pm to thunderbird1100
Need RPI in the 20’s. It’ll get there with some wins vs A&M & Bama. Both of those series will be quad 1’s.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:29 pm to VeryReauxna_ish
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Need RPI in the 20’s. It’ll get there with some wins vs A&M & Bama. Both of those series will be quad 1’s.
That’s an unfair standard when you know other conferences can get at larges with RPI in the 40s and 50s…
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