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re: Coach Kelly says they aren’t going to buy players.

Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:28 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10479 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:28 am to
I like what he’s saying and It needs to be said by more coaches

If you want to come here, it needs to be for the right reasons. We don’t want mercenaries who come in as prima Donna’s.
We want players who want to be a part of a team.
They’ll get paid but that can’t be the primary reason.


That said, if a guy is a quality player, good attitude, great leader etc, and another programs NIL throws $5 mil at him and we can only muster $1mil then he’d be dumb to ignore the money…
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54634 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:31 am to
I mean I get what Kelly is saying but we are very thin at DL. Let's think about the teams that are overpaying here:Oklahoma, Miami, Texas, Texas A&M. What have they got in common? Let's just say there has not been a lot of championships recently and Aggie well.......

I give Coach Kelly the benefit also but he doesn't have a natty either and we still don't have a legit SEC starter DT
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79308 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:46 am to
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Now lease, on the other hand.


Zingggg
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13981 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:01 am to
He's right........... More coaches need to say it. We can't pay a DT more than our top ten draft pick offensive tackle. It resets the whole bar. It's not like he wouldn't they wouldn't get paid if they came here. Come here be a good teammate, get coached up by the best coach in the country at DL, get drafted, and make half a million.

Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4935 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:08 am to
Dabo said/doing the same thing...
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13981 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:16 am to
We're not doing the same thing as Dabo. We just got a Heisman winning QB from the portal.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9706 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:20 am to
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Well Keon Coleman and Fisk both crushed last year for FSU but interesting thought nonetheless


Keon came into college just after Covid before NIL blew up.

I’m talking about a top HS player today getting several million and staying focused on football.
Posted by lsu4life77
Member since Jun 2010
1007 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:39 am to
I hope they pay these kids whatever ridiculous sum they ask for and make them clean the toilets around campus!!
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
2256 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:48 am to
“Because LSU does the things that allows a team to compete for national titles, like Ohio State does, like Georgia does, like Alabama does. And, now you say you don’t want to do the things that people do to compete for national titles? You say you’re not into buying players. LSU is into buying coaches. They bought you for $10 million a year to win national championships. They didn’t buy you to say, ‘We’re not into buying players.'”
Posted by FCarole
Down da bayou
Member since Nov 2021
188 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:58 am to
I wouldn't pay good money to simply build depth in any position. If you've got the right position coaches on the staff, then its on them to develop that depth.

I'd only go the mercenary route for an absolute game changer type athlete, and those types are few and far between, and is often a gamble on whether or not the pan out to their max potential.
Posted by lsuhou74
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
3861 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:09 pm to
Sho nuff....better get on board or get left behind ...All about the loot!!
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13543 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Ok so let’s say we pay Damonic Williams 1.5 for average defensive line play for one season.

That’s more than either of our Offensive Coordinators make btw but let’s say we do it.

We can afford an extra 1.5 this year no problem.

But what happens next year? Williams is gone but Whit Weeks is still here. All of those freshman DBs are still here. Nuss is still here. That whole incoming 2025 recruiting class is here.

Do you honestly think they won’t be in BK’s office saying “well you paid him that and I’m better than him so where’s my money?”



Literally what happened to Saban that broke his spirit and made him quit.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10479 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Do you honestly think they won’t be in BK’s office saying “well you paid him that and I’m better than him so where’s my money?”



Coaches don’t pay players.

They can go out and get donors to pay them through either a collective or directly.

Consider that all coaches are tugging at the purse strings and you can see how it gets complicated.
Baseball team has the chance to land the best pitcher ever known and he’s from Baton Rouge and he’s demanding at least 1mm a year. The football coach needs that for a running back who isn’t even a 5 star…
It gets real complicated.

What I think we’re hearing Kelly say between the lines is that there simply isn’t the amount of money needed to get the top players. It’s a limited pool of money.
Baton Rouge is small market afterall.

Look at what fed ex just dedicated to Memphis. Over 20mil !

We don’t have any company willing to dedicate that kind of money. Not even close.
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1577 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:39 pm to
[quote]8) Brian Kelly
1x BCS runner up, 2x CFP semi-finalist, 2x Div 2 National Title, winningest active head coach[/quote]

was almost with ya until ya got here...no one cares about D2 titles or regular season wins as long as you still haven't won the big one!
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10449 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:43 pm to
Said contracts will be tied to a specific school or they are useless to the “boosters”.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37562 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

If you want to come here, it needs to be for the right reasons. We don’t want mercenaries who come in as prima Donna’s.


Coaches first.
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
658 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Is it public what the total NIL pot is for Football and the other major sports


No it isn’t. You’re seeing a lot of guesswork in this thread.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:20 pm to
Well I guess Coach Kelly isn’t that serious about winning a national championship then.
Posted by Stew2581
Covington
Member since Oct 2021
887 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Team chemistry won't mean shite when teams are running the ball up the gut of the defense all fall 'Member how embarrassing the secondary was last season? The DT position is that bad going into 2024

So you want to pay a very average DT the same as your HC or the same as Perk or Nuss? Yea that would go over great with the locker room. Both Barrow and Williams wanted 7 figures, it’s a fact. BK wisely chose not to be held hostage by uncles and former coaches with their hands out. You can’t allow your program to be basically ransomed like that or it will end badly down the road for you.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24479 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

So you want to pay a very average DT the same as your HC or the same as Perk or Nuss? Yea that would go over great with the locker room. Both Barrow and Williams wanted 7 figures, it’s a fact. BK wisely chose not to be held hostage by uncles and former coaches with their hands out. You can’t allow your program to be basically ransomed like that or it will end badly down the road for you.


Please excuse ipodking. He's mildly ratahded.
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