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re: Can we get some clarification regarding the program?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:27 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:27 pm to jimbeam
Wade will eventually be a victim of his own success because the standard will change based on prior results. The leash isn’t forever but any reasonable fan should be excited about where we are considering the previous decade of shite basketball
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 5:29 pm
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:28 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Who out there besides a prayer of hiring Slick Rick would guarantee more success? If you think Woody is pulling some big name away from a much better program you’re just ignorant.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:31 pm to crowbar832001
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I haven’t found a Wade supporter to have an intelligent conversation with on the subject.
Oh yea, I'm here. Let's get after it
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First next year is the Wade proving year in my opinion. He shouldn’t be fired until after an evaluation with what should be his best team.
What? Proving "what" exactly? SEC championship (done that), make the tournament every season after the one buffer year he took over (done that).
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(I get this can be debatable)
Holy shite. So Darius Days has not gotten better. Gaines isn't better this year than last. Javonte Smart did not get better. Trendon Watford did not get better. This proves you're an absolute just hater, but I'll keep answering you.
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his players always have a tendency to play out of control
Nolan Richardson for Arkansas created "40 minutes of Hell". We imply a similar system. It's balls to the wall. FYI, when Wade was hired, everyone was THRILLED we were going to be pressing and creating havoc. It just further proves that basketball "fans" really have no idea what they want.
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On coaches to hire this is hard to say as you never know who to expect is available but based on his record at LSU, in Woodward I trust.
How about this...let's hire a coach who has made the tournament every season for 6 years, gone past the sweet 16 at least twice, has 2 high major conference championships. Do you know why I picked those numbers? Because ANYTHING less than those numbers, we are regressing on a coaching hire. So since you say you want an intelligent conversation, you can go ahead and find what coaches fit that description (fyi...it will be an incredibly short list).
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Cooley and medved would be two top names but I think scott would have some better names show up too
Medved? Holy. shite. So your answer is to hire a coach who is a decade older than our current head coach, never gone to the tourney (Obviously he will this year), and has a SIGNFICANTLY lower winning percentage than our current head coach?
Ed Cooley!?!?!?! So..a guy who is 52 and has NEVER reached the Sweet 16...what the actual Hell. Who are you people
How short sided, short minded, and clueless are you about basketball? Before this year, Providence has never lost single digit games in a season. I just cannot
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reasonably being a top 40ish team to make the tournament almost every year is fair. A top 16 team every 3 years. A top 8 in there every 5 to 6 years. A final 4 type run once a decade.
Top 40ish? Ok, obviously check. Tournament every year...check. Literally went to the Sweet 16 2 dances ago. CHECK. Top 8? What a random thing to throw in there...but still haven't met that ole 6 year threshold. Decade Final Four...ok.
So you're saying you want us to be Kansas...Duke...that's about it. Kentucky and UNC don't remotely qualify for that.
Do you see how asinine this is? The last 5 years of college basketball, LSU is a top 15 program 100%
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:32 pm to jimbeam
The UVA coach with LSU ties or try to get Scott drew
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:32 pm to TigerFan91
Wade is in no danger based on play. The program is better but at a plateau. Next year is way more important
Its his crossroads.
Its his crossroads.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Absolutely agreed there. Nice class coming in, have some returning production plus Miller healthy.
Next year is way more important
Don’t know the outlook of the rest of the league, but next year is a money year for Wade
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:35 pm to LSUButt
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LSUButt
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:35 pm to TigerFan91
Without Pinson injury, this team has 4 less losses. I truly wonder if fans would feel any different about Wade. Sadly, I think people just have no idea what they want and the ole "Careful what you wish for" line comes to mind
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think you’re right. Next year signals the next step up in recruiting for us. If he sustains that level going forward the improvements should come. A lot of our fans don’t really understand basketball recruiting, top 100 guys in basketball aren’t like in football, you need to have one or two top 25 guys to really be a threat based on talent alone. Wade’s also hinted about focusing on the portal which gave Auburn its huge turnaround this season. Auburns class was ranked 72nd yet every starter is in their first season at Auburn.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:40 pm to Madking
I would bet money Wade goes gets a pure shooter in the portal
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:40 pm to LSUButt
I don’t think so. People love being opposite defiant and tear down things and people other people like. I’m very guilty of it too.
Wade is a flawed coach, I think everyone can agree with that and the biggest Wade supporters acknowledge those flaws. But he’s also sparked and built something that we haven’t seen in multiple decades. Feels like people can’t be excited about the growth and just want to nitpick and say told you so about all the flaws that we all know are there
Wade is a flawed coach, I think everyone can agree with that and the biggest Wade supporters acknowledge those flaws. But he’s also sparked and built something that we haven’t seen in multiple decades. Feels like people can’t be excited about the growth and just want to nitpick and say told you so about all the flaws that we all know are there
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:41 pm to jimbeam
To those who think CWW is so great why is it so obvious that he can coach but just one side at time. All offense or all defense.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:44 pm to Mikethegreattiger
Likely because he overreacted in building his team this year. He said this in a press conference. He’s a young coach. If “only coaching one side at a time” only yields top 10 offenses/defenses, I think I’ll see what the future could hold when he gets it all figured out.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:46 pm to jimbeam
Fresh topic. Tigers haven't beaten anyone with a pulse in weeks. This season has been disappointing. Frustration is justified.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:47 pm to jimbeam
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I also agree with this, which is why barring a tourney win this year and a seed next year, he deserves to get extended.
Well he has met this so far. By standards an elite 8 run would be next year.
The one caveat to this is he getting the maximum potential out of his players? This is less about this year and more about last year with Thomas, Watford, and Smart. This year with Miller out, early they exceeded expectations then late seemed to regress. Regression in a session is usually one or both of two things injuries or coaching.
If Wade coached team kicks arse next year, I will be the first to say extend him. I’ll really sit neutral on Wade till then but his teams undisciplined play will continue to frustrate me.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:50 pm to jimbeam
I really think focusing on the portal is smart. In college basketball age and experience is such a big advantage, I wouldn’t mind going half and half with freshman in that regard. Too many leave for various reasons before you can even develop them and we’ve seen what one or two injuries can do to an inexperienced team this season.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:52 pm to crowbar832001
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crowbar832001
Sir, you ignored me
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:52 pm to jimbeam
You are right. But how long will it take for him to be able to do this. He’s has been 4 or more years. Maybe in 4 more years he can do both.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:53 pm to crowbar832001
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First next year is the Wade proving year in my opinion.
I’m not sure what he is supposed to prove, but a regression from this years team should make his seat warm
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his players always have a tendency to play out of control. Rarely do his players improve from freshman year.
I agree, he lets them play a bit more than I’m used to. I disagree on players improving. There has been plenty of players who have improved…pretty much only guards though.
While your expectations don’t sound absurd, few teams meet that level of consistency that aren’t blue bloods, or in a basketball rich region. Especially in the one and done era. This is only wades 3rd season at lsu in the tournament, so it’s hard to say he is or isn’t meeting that expectation.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:56 pm to jimbeam
The last 2 seasons we had no size so he overcompensated there. We also lost Miller which would’ve changed the backcourt and rotations. Had he not gotten hurt you likely have
Miller
Pinson
Murray
Starting on the perimeter which changes the offense completely. You’d have Gaines and Wilkinson off the bench instead along with Eason. We also had O’Neal starting way late, had he been healthy from day 1 he’s much further along in his development and you would’ve had an answer for when Reid struggled. To be where we are isn’t bad but people are acting like it’s the worst season in program history.
Miller
Pinson
Murray
Starting on the perimeter which changes the offense completely. You’d have Gaines and Wilkinson off the bench instead along with Eason. We also had O’Neal starting way late, had he been healthy from day 1 he’s much further along in his development and you would’ve had an answer for when Reid struggled. To be where we are isn’t bad but people are acting like it’s the worst season in program history.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 5:59 pm
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