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re: MBB Portal Targets List

Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by South Endzone Warrio
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
559 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:52 pm to
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We should be losing Hannibal, Baker, Dean, Wright, Cook, Wilkinson and Fountain?


Yes that is correct.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
544 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:11 pm to
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Previous season EM BPR - Source

For reference, a BPR of 4.25+ puts you in the Top 250 for this past season. LSU's highest rated player was Wright at 4.42. Returning players of note - Fountain 2.79, Ward 1.76, Williams 1.45, Reed 0.34

Guards:
3.10 Cam Carter (Jr Kansas State): 14.6 PTS, 5.0 REB, 2.6 AST


That's great that Cam has the 3rd best BPR among the players we're pursuing. The BPR reveals some interesting things. For example, Dean had a 3.04 BPR, which was a nice jump from his 1.0 last year. Jalen Reed jumped from -1.69 to 0.34. Ward made a big jump from -0.83 to +1.76. So many players made big jumps. Fountain practically didn't change from 2.70 last year to 2.79 this year, but that's a good role player. Compare that to Baker's 1.48, which is very close to his 1.60 last year. That correlates to what I saw on the court.

Jordan improved from 3.77 to 4.42. Hopefully Cam can have a similar improvement. Cook improved from 2.97 to about 4.45, which I'm not sure matched what we saw on the court.

By the way, Stewart went from 2.74 to 3.18 BPR. Based on that alone, I hope he returns.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 7:20 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35456 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:05 pm to
I am guessing we reach out to this guy, Danny Wolf of Yale. 7', 255 lbs with 35% from 3 and 9.7 rpg. Sounds like Baker but a better rebounder. Plus he has 2 years of eligibility left.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:08 pm to
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By the way, Stewart went from 2.74 to 3.18 BPR. Based on that alone, I hope he returns.


Stewart's BPR is high but his eye test does not match his BPR. It certainly would have dropped if he played the entire SEC schedule.

Think his role had a lot to do with his eye test, though
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35456 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:30 pm to
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Stewart's BPR is high but his eye test does not match his BPR. It certainly would have dropped if he played the entire SEC schedule.

Think his role had a lot to do with his eye test, though
Yeah. I would accept Stewart back based on that he was injured this past year. Outside of a single game after Cook started playing I don't think he played well otherwise.

Some advanced stat in his favor this year just shows how deceiving those stats can be. Pretty sure Dalton Kneckt's BPR for this year shows him as a middle of the pack Tennessee player.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:52 pm to
Don't think Carlos is a bad player. His role on the team was not his ideal role. He is NOT an off ball player. Baker ate up all the space he liked to score from.

I just don't see the point of retaining him (which is likely what's going to happen) if you don't put the ball in his hands and let him cook. He's damn near useless of the ball.

He's going to be taking minutes and touches from Givens, Carter, and Williams. The ONLY reason it makes sense to keep Stewart is if Cook is leaving. If not, it makes ZERO sense from a roster construction standpoint.

I don't want to hear this BS of Givens being a freshman and not playing or being redshirted or some shite like that. The kid can hoop. He needs to play.
Posted by tigersham
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2023
155 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:33 am to
There’s been a few more players we’ve reached out to in the past couple of days. I’m out of town for Easter but I should have the list updated again around the end of the weekend
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27313 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:59 am to
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We have made the top six for Jordan Sears


This is the type of 20ppg scorer they need.

Can get into the rim easily with his right hand. Has a super nice stepback.

Isn't afraid to shoot the ball. I think his scoring will translate to the sec.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:25 am to
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Cook improved from 2.97 to about 4.45, which I'm not sure matched what we saw on the court.

By the way, Stewart went from 2.74 to 3.18 BPR. Based on that alone, I hope he returns.



I think Cook and Stweart's BPR did not pass the eye test because the things they seemed to do well didn't necessarily fit what CMM was trying to do.

Part of that is on CMM for trying to put a square in a peg hole but the players also share some blame for not adjusting. However, Stweart seemed to be trying, and Cook just seemed to do his own thing. That's probably why Cook had issues.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28439 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:26 am to
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Yes that is correct
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Has Fountain entered the portal? Otherwise, I think he stays (he has a “Covid year”). Unlike Wilkinson, he didn’t participate in Senior day even though he was a senior. I think that was a good indication he plans to return
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:33 am to
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Has Fountain entered the portal?


I haven't seen anything, but LSU basketball news is pretty thin, even if you trek to the darkest corners of the net
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27313 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:38 am to
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Has Fountain entered the portal? Otherwise, I think he stays (he has a “Covid year”). Unlike Wilkinson, he didn’t participate in Senior day even though he was a senior. I think that was a good indication he plans to return



I think he will be back. I hope he does come back. Plays extremely hard and is usually in the right spot.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35456 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:10 am to
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haven't seen anything, but LSU basketball news is pretty thin, even if you trek to the darkest corners of the net
It is funny how Mulkey and Kelly get credit for running a tight ship, but almost nothing leaks out of the men's basketball program. We still aren't 100% officially confirmed how many players were on scholarship last year!
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:19 am to
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It is funny how Mulkey and Kelly get credit for running a tight ship, but almost nothing leaks out of the men's basketball program. We still aren't 100% officially confirmed how many players were on scholarship last year!


I wonder how much of it is a "tight ship" and how much of it is local media basically not caring about MBB? I've tried social media searches, and it's crazy how smaller programs have more accounts providing info than LSU.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:25 am to
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I wonder how much of it is a "tight ship" and how much of it is local media basically not caring about MBB?


It's a good bit of both IMO
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18284 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 4:10 pm to
How many are even SEC caliber instead of bodies?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 5:27 pm to
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How many are even SEC caliber instead of bodies?


Carter, Edwards Jr., & Omoruyi. After that, there are a few other solid players that may or may not translate to the SEC. Then a bunch of reaches/projects.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29317 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:44 pm to
If we can somehow convince Vyctorious Miller to come back to the LSU side after getting out of his Oregon commitment…
Posted by Stately
St. Jawj
Member since Aug 2019
118 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:52 am to
I think Pegues's skill would translate to the SEC, he put up similar numbers to Cook at Tulane. Doubt the rebounds would as high but he does seem to have a knack to be in the right spot for long rebounds. Plus he is a good defender and has 2 years of eligibility left.

Sears's scoring is impressive, but frankly 5'-11" and 3.0 TO is a little scary in the 6th worst conference. However Hubbard from State is only 5'-10" so it could work.

Regardless we need an experienced PG so I think if you can get one of these you got to take him.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27313 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:29 am to
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If we can somehow convince Vyctorious Miller to come back to the LSU side after getting out of his Oregon commitment…



Is there any word on where he is leaning? I saw they let him out his nil.
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