re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

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Peavine Falls. July 4th. 8.25 miles and 1000' of climb. I'd love to get into the 7:45 range which I think is doable given that I just ran a 9.3 miles with the same climb in 8:05. Any thoughts on how to pick up speed for uphills?

Probably pick a low impact 1/2 training plan and go with that.

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did you recognize my route from 4 pages back?!

btw: to answer your question, hill repeats from now until July 4th once a week

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I’m in Cahaba HEIGHTS. We got hills. Guess I’ll be doing hill repeats for the next couple of months.

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I do hill repeats at least every 3 weeks and I constantly run hills during my mid-week "easy" runs.

When I run with BTC everyone knows I will be faster than them on hills, this is going up and going back down, my hill economy is very very good.

The biggest thing with Hill Repeats is to make sure you leave it all on the road by the time your 2 minutes are up. I did hill repeats last Tuesday and would have to walk down the hill because I was pushing so hard uphill.

I hate hill repeats, but they are great.

I would do hill repeats on Stone River if I was in your area btw...

I would try not to overanalyze heart rate data. If you feel beat up, ease off for a week and taper a bit. IMO, it's easier to judge based on how your body is feeling and not try to use strictly the numbers. Only you know how much you can put your body through. You can also put your body through a lot more than you think. You held that mid/hi 160s BPM for at least an hour, who says you can't do it for another?

As you said you are pretty beaten up already, so that should be a sign that on a good day with total preparation, you can post ideal results at double the distance.

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or Walter white it!

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Go hard or suffer for the rest of your life!!

Obviously I’m more of a go hard kind of runner, so I tend to push my limits maybe more than most. Agree with KS & Bilbeau tho. Feel is more telling than HR, esp for racing.

Go big, Andavari!!

Thanks guys! I kinda agree with you all, why have I put myself through 3 50+ mile weeks, and SO MANY MORE MILES IN GENERAL + way more "workouts" because of those miles this time if I'm not going to leave it all out on the line.

Going into taper next week I will make sure to listen to my body and heal up the best that I can, 2 more weeks until Judgement Day, there is no going back now!

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What 100 miler are you planning to tackle? I might know a little about running that distance.

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Tunnel Hill in Vienna, IL, the place for the 50 mile record. There is a loose, small gravel trail about 3 miles from my house that is VERY similar to Tunnel Hill and 17 miles in all, so I'll be training on it a lot once training starts.

I do not plan to do a 100 miler training plan, I plan to just do a Marathon Training plan with a "few" and I mean very very few, long runs that are over the 22 mile threshold. After doing a lot of research and reading about the "top talent" in the ultra scene, it pretty much appears that most of the top athletes still just keep the "under 3 hours" rule in place when training.

More power to you dude. Anything over 26.2 and I’m tapping out

You can “train” however you think is best for you but none of us are anywhere near the top talent. Don’t think just because they stick to a 3 hr time limit they aren’t still putting in volume. Camille herring has talked about this a lot. Turns out she may run three time a day and still hits 80-100 mile weeks. The top talent also have much more running history than you. They’re a lot more to finishing 100 milers and I think anyone can do it. Talk to some other people you may know that are on a similar level to you that have done them and get their ideas on training
Marathon is so much more just physical conditioning. 100 miler challenges you mentally. And then there’s the whole nutrition game. More than happy to talk with you about any aspect of it.

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ks_nola

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I think the biggest thing that will hold me back on my 100 miler training is going to just be fatherhood. I've worked myself up to 50+ mile weeks at this point, it wouldn't be that huge of a stretch to get up to 90-100 during the 100 miler training; if I had the time.

I do plan to do at least 2-3 65+ mile weeks and at least one 40 mile day during the training... what that looks like I am not sure.

For now I'm pretty focused on the goal ahead of me (Rock n Roll) and I'll recalibrate after. Also plan to switch to a more vo2 Max focus for a few months to give my body a bit of rest.

I'm doing the 100 miler with 30 other people who are WAY less in shape than me, so I really can't talk to them about what to do (8 of them have finished a 100, but we are talking 32 hour finish times) and another coworker of mine does like 3 a year but he always looks for the hardest courses he can find and goes for it (and one of the three is always going to be over 100, this year he's doing a 200 miler). My other issue with my coworker is... he doesn't train, like at all

Boston marathon is taking place today! Good luck to those running it!

Former boss I worked for at a running store in Monroe, future boss at the school I’ll be teaching at next year, and someone I trained with occasionally in college are all running. Hoping to be there next year in the first wave if this run in a couple weeks comes together the way I want it to.