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re: Need Info on TRT

Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:48 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:48 am to
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not sure where your levels where before but bet after 90 days you will see a 25% increase in total and a 50% increase in free

I will tell you since I have started using both I can tell a difference. Was very skeptical about the boron but it is doing its job and after researching/reading/trying I am in agreement with you that male or female everyone should be using boron at at least 9mg/day. I've since upped to 18mg and that is as high as I will go. It works.
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i do think you would be better off going with sustain alpha over the dhea or even dermacrine if you really wanted the dhea.

I looked into it and from all accounts it does seem better than oral version but just trying to baby step it. Been a long journey to this point and taking my time. Might try the SA after I get bloods back in 90 days. I agree that for most the oral dhea provides minimal results when compared to the SA.
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not gonna lie though, amazing to see your history and then see the way you react to other things

I'm not joking when I tell you I am lucky to be alive. Absolute miracle I did not pass away in my sleep in my 30's. Lost several friends that way and after about the 8th one I decided it was time to stop before that was me. Having more fun training now natty than I ever did enhanced. Every workout is a challenge every day is a challenge to beat previous week etc. I wake up excited and ready to go to gym just an absolute blast. Unbelievable feeling.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:24 pm to
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I'm not joking when I tell you I am lucky to be alive. Absolute miracle I did not pass away in my sleep in my 30's. Lost several friends that way and after about the 8th one I decided it was time to stop before that was me. Having more fun training now natty than I ever did enhanced. Every workout is a challenge every day is a challenge to beat previous week etc. I wake up excited and ready to go to gym just an absolute blast. Unbelievable feeling.




man had a lot of friends that went down that path but were abusing the frick out of rec drugs. and when i say friends more like gym friends. luckily didnt have many that passed away before waking up.

ftr i think use is fine, its the abuse and getting crazy with it that gets you in trouble. also not monitoring bloods etc

i will say my believe is that you should try and stick to the bio identical hormones as much as possible, let the food be the anabolic and make as much progress as possible pushing the strength numbers to make as much progress as possible with minimal dosing. and by 45, should be focusing on maintaining and health

but honestly unless you are getting paid for you body, not worht using anything but test, hgh and some peptides.

my biggest fear in life is dropping dead in the front yard while tossing a ball with my boys. When i dont wanna train or want to eat like an a-hole i try to think about that and usually i get motivated real quick
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:19 pm to
Does boron crash E2? My E2 is already extremely low.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:06 pm to
No raises free test
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43643 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:33 pm to
I started sustain alpha and boron and been feeling alot better energy wise. 6 mg at night boron and a few pumps on each thigh with the sustain alpha. I will do a testosterone panel soon to see what affect it had on my normally around 300 score.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:39 pm to
i would double that boron dose man. 6mg is really really low. 9mg would be minimum what i recommend now

and glad you are having more energy. make sure you get free test tested as that is the important number

have them test

total t
free t
estro
shgb

at a minimum
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43643 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 2:13 pm to
Ill bump up to 9mg I just didnt want to start out with too much.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:27 pm to
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No raises free test


I had read guys crashed their estradiol with the addition of boron... not that it can really go any lower as is.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:50 am to
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6 mg at night boron


I’d up the boron to anywhere from 12mg to 18mg taken in morning on empty stomach. Its done wonders for me and I was very skeptical at first. I do not think 9mg is enough unless you are a female. I think males benefit from 12 to 18 mg. I went with oral dhea let us know how the sustain alpha works I have heard good things about it.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 6:52 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:06 pm to
Agreed on bumping dosage

Don’t see how boron would crash e2, should raise it slightly if anything. Should lower shgb in turn raising free teat
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68482 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:34 am to
Anything else should I take with my 100 mg’s of testosterone cypionate once a week.

I’ve read that dhea seems to be correlated with Nonalcoholic fatty liver disease?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:00 am to
boron ~12-15mg

no need for dhea on test
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68482 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:36 am to
Ok I’ll look for it next time I shop
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42535 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 7:01 pm to
Is there a dosage of TRT that is presumed extremely safe for everyone? Like the 2.5mg of tirz
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:41 pm to
Yes 100-150mg is considered extremely safe, hell anything under 200/week is
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43643 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:45 pm to
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morning on empty stomach.


Why on empty stomach? The bottle says take with food
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42535 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:36 am to
Thanks. What type of TRT should I buy from QSC? Or is there just one type?
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58659 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:22 am to
I’d stick with TestC, but based on your questions, I’d def do some research before injecting yourself with anything.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31419 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:31 am to
test c or test e


but have you had blood work done? what are your levels? you done having kids? lots of things to explore before just jumping on.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42535 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:20 am to
Last test I was in low 900s on clomid. 400s before clomid. Probably one and done kid wise.
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