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re: Anyone on the Northshore know where I can find a driving range?

Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25289 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:38 pm to
I get what you are saying but Mandeville isn’t Beverly Hills

I lived off HWY 1088 and had to drive to Royal in fricking Slidell to use a driving range. Can’t imagine a worse suburban region with year-round weather for public golf than the Covington/mandeville area - it’s truly pathetic.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29413 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Used to be one in Hammond. Don't know if it is still there.

It’s now an assisted living center. Which really sucks. I frequented it often. Had lights, big bucket of balls for $6-7. You could play the little executive course for like $12. It was always busy, but the land was worth more than the business.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:10 pm to
Beau chene is just so damn affordable. If you are under 40 and play golf at all it makes more sense to join even if there was good public golf in the area
Posted by Lollipop Jones
Amite, LA
Member since Jul 2017
519 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:54 pm to
CAM2 Golf Club in Amite.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:11 am to
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Beau chene is just so damn affordable. If you are under 40


Making such a blanket statement based on the enormous requirement of being under 40 is kind of silly. Unless you're solely walking every single round, never get beverages from the cart girls or the oak grill, never buy food or drinks from the pool cabana, never eat dinner at the oak grill, never go to the wine dinners, bingos or holiday buffets, don't play in the BCCC tournaments, don't join the MGA, don't get the range plan you're looking at roughly $90/week just in dues. I'm not sure how you can say that makes more sense without alot of other factors.

If you're over 40 the price goes up to about $140 a week and thats without one day on the range and no cart rentals. For $140 a week I can play a mid week scramble at Royal, Carter or Oak Harbor and two weekend rounds (Diamonhead, The Oaks, The Bridges, etc.).

Driving that far is the issue and how/why Money Hill comes into the equation but I like the people and social dynamic better at BCCC. Not a knock at the people over at MH, they're just a bit older with most having different interests. The proximity of the course, social events, etc is what puts BCCC ahead of public golf and MH IMO but it's definitely not because of the price. If it was just about golf, no way would I think BCCC makes "more sense" for most people.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:21 am to
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I lived off HWY 1088 and had to drive to Royal in fricking Slidell to use a driving range.


I live off 1088 now and can still get to Royal faster than I can BCCC most of the time. Its' further but takes less time normally.

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Can’t imagine a worse suburban region with year-round weather for public golf than the Covington/mandeville area - it’s truly pathetic.


Diamondhead, The Oaks and The Bridges are all less than 50 miles away which takes less than hour except on the weekend with the traffic heading to/from Gulf Coast beaches. There are some places where you can hit two 9i in any direction and land on a nice course but it's not uncommon in major cities to have to travel an hour to get to a nice course so while I don't like it we do have some alternatives.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Making such a blanket statement based on the enormous requirement of being under 40 is kind of silly. Unless you're solely walking every single round, never get beverages from the cart girls or the oak grill, never buy food or drinks from the pool cabana, never eat dinner at the oak grill, never go to the wine dinners, bingos or holiday buffets, don't play in the BCCC tournaments, don't join the MGA, don't get the range plan you're looking at roughly $90/week just in dues. I'm not sure how you can say that makes more sense without alot of other factors. If you're over 40 the price goes up to about $140 a week and thats without one day on the range and no cart rentals. For $140 a week I can play a mid week scramble at Royal, Carter or Oak Harbor and two weekend rounds (Diamonhead, The Oaks, The Bridges, etc.). Driving that far is the issue and how/why Money Hill comes into the equation but I like the people and social dynamic better at BCCC. Not a knock at the people over at MH, they're just a bit older with most having different interests. The proximity of the course, social events, etc is what puts BCCC ahead of public golf and MH IMO but it's definitely not because of the price. If it was just about golf, no way would I think BCCC makes "more sense" for most people.
I pay $309 in dues

I need to play walking golf roughly 3.5 times a month to break even from a golf perspective with the current fees for public golf in this state. Everything else you listed like food etc is not required when playing golf. And if k choose to eat dinner or buy a beer that’s something I am going to sue regardless of where I play….

I am not saying a public course would 100% fail here, but with 3 cheaper country clubs all in the area I think it makes it more difficult.Obviously for people playing 10 times a year a public course is a far better option. But is it a smart executive decision to build a course relying on those people?

I would be nervous opening up a public course in Mandeville with the clubs currently all in the area.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:56 am to
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I pay $309 in dues

I need to play walking golf roughly 3.5 times a month to break even from a golf perspective with the current fees for public golf in this state.


On the NS you have options to other states, like Mississippi.

The under 40 membership does bring more value but that's a much smaller demographic and doesnt apply to most people at the club and it's finite length of time. Strictly from a golf perspective, the under 40 COULD be the best option depending on alot of other factors but the true appeal of BCCC for most people is the other things that country club life brings.

If you're break even is 3.5 times a month, you can play Diamondhead 4 times a month for the same price so again, you'd have to play at least once a week and never (or hardly every) rent a cart and never (or hardly ever) go to the range and never (or hardly ever) play in the BCCC or MGA tournaments.

Just being reasonable and just on golf, let's just say you rent a cart for an 18 hold round three times a month, that $309 membership is now $384.

The weekend resident fee at English Turn is $84, $109 for morning at The Bridges (twilight from $49-$79) and that doesnt even consider discounts available through casino memberships, The Oaks for $100 in the morning or $79 at twilight and that doesnt consider discounts available through their membership card. I havent even started considering other courses within an hour (Greystone, Grand Ridge, Carter, etc.)

I'm at BCCC so it's not that I don't think it's a good option but strictly for golf, strictly for the limited under 40 dues, it's no slam dunk. There are options as residents of the Northshore but it requires what alot of people have to do in other cities...travel an hour or so.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 8:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:58 am to
I would love for a nice public course to open here. I just would not want to be a part of it financially
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:04 am to
The Inman's inquired about buying CCC, I think they know they would take a hit if Danny does it right but they've got the Mandeville market basically covered.

CCC isn't a bad layout but it needs proper leadership and direction.Public golf is thriving 30-60 miles to our west and 50 miles to the east. There is no reason it can't thrive here.

ETA...that was poorly worded. There are plenty of reasons it can fail here but median income isn't it IMO.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:07 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

that was poorly worded. There are plenty of reasons it can fail here but median income isn't it IMO.
I agree. I think it’s median income combined with the 3 country clubs in the area not being expensive that make it tough. Like look at Nola. Your only private clubs are expensive as frick. Even BR it’s far higher than the mandeville clubs too.

And I agree I think Covington could be some awesome. The clubhouse setup on the river has SO MUCH POTENTIAL if it was a fully private club that was rocking and rolling

This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:16 am to
I've actually spent some time redesigning a few of the holes from the course online, dropping it to a par 70, turning holes 10 and 18 into a driving range, moving the "pro shop" but that's just ALOT of capital, time and effort and I just don't have that hunger in my late 40s.

I should have just bought Tiger Point and moved to Pensacola back in 2020 when I looked into that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:18 am to
I mean the swimming pool overlooking the river and the clubhouse right there is just such an old school 80s country club feel it’s awesome. They could be such a damn gem
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20760 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:29 am to
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I've actually spent some time redesigning a few of the holes from the course online, dropping it to a par 70, turning holes 10 and 18 into a driving range


Please sweet baby Jesus make it happen
Posted by buzzedgolfer
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
350 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:42 pm to
I grew up learning to play golf at CCC back when it was somewhat decent. I would love for it to make a comeback
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40410 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:08 pm to
A lot of the greens at CCC coming back around. Still have a ways to go but someone definitely working on them now. Not sure why they are basically scalping the fairways down to dirt. Maybe trying to get the Bermuda to take over. Not sure.Hopefully they are able to get some progress there
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:56 am to
quote:

Please sweet baby Jesus make it happen


There are tons of ways to add on the range but one I liked was taking 2 and making it a par 4 by adding a green on the teebox side of the water then using the current 2 green to make a short par 3.

You could also do the same on 5 and make it a long par 3 putting a green by the Oak tree then making it a challenging short par 4 hitting into what is currently the 5th green.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20760 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:49 am to
While we are getting into the hypothetical, I would rather not touch 2 as that is one of the few hole layouts that makes you make serious decisions with your second shot.

I would be more in favor of chopping up 5 or 7
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53961 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:56 am to
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I would rather not touch 2 as that is one of the few hole layouts that makes you make serious decisions with your second shot.


Really? I don't see the advantage to not laying up for 99.999% of the golfers.

In fact, I think eliminating that option would increase the pace of play so hackers don't wait 5 minutes just to dribble their 3 wood 125 yards an then chunk their 7i into the drink.

5 is just stupid IMO
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:57 am to
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CAM2 Golf Club in Amite.


Def worth the drive to play. If he's looking for just driving range Carter is prolly the best option. Cam2 driving range is solid but hard to hit driver if you carry it over 220/230ish. Course was in great shape about a month ago. Need to get back out and play once more before it gets too hot.
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