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Posted on 5/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:


Just got my first wave of parts delivered today and I feel like a little overly excited kid right now

Will be a new member of the master race in a couple days.


Knew you'd come around. Let's go
Posted by lazlodawg
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 10:50 am to
Hey guys, my father in law is getting into WW 2 combat flight simulators and I wanted to get your ideas for a parts list for a 1080p machine for him. What would it take to play IL-2 Sturmovik at max settings?

Edited to add that I live 40 minutes from a microcenter if that helps.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 11:27 am
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:58 am to
How difficult is it to get GPUs once the new series is released?

I've been on gaming laptops for the last 5-6 years due to travel schedule, but that is no longer the case. Finally want to build something (or possibly buy a pre built if it's the only way to get the newest GPUs without waiting). Trying to determine now if I should go with 4090 or wait until 50 series. I'm not in a huge rush now, so waiting makes more sense. But if it'll be 6 months after release before I can actually get a 50 series, I don't know if I have that patience
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Hey guys, my father in law is getting into WW 2 combat flight simulators and I wanted to get your ideas for a parts list for a 1080p machine for him. What would it take to play IL-2 Sturmovik at max settings?

I’m not personally familiar with the title, but after a little Reddit perusal, anything reasonably modern should be fine. What’s your budget?
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Edited to add that I live 40 minutes from a microcenter if that helps.

That always helps
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:29 pm to
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How difficult is it to get GPUs once the new series is released? I've been on gaming laptops for the last 5-6 years due to travel schedule, but that is no longer the case. Finally want to build something (or possibly buy a pre built if it's the only way to get the newest GPUs without waiting). Trying to determine now if I should go with 4090 or wait until 50 series. I'm not in a huge rush now, so waiting makes more sense. But if it'll be 6 months after release before I can actually get a 50 series, I don't know if I have that patience

The 40 series wasn’t terrible to get, but it’s hard to tell whether that was because availability was actually better, or whether it was simply a market response to people being really disappointed with the pricing.

I expect availability for the 50 series to be more similar to the 30 series (read: very bad) unless Nvidia does something really, really stupid with pricing. There’s a ton of pent up demand right now.

Really just depends on your price sensitivity and whether you’re going to get hardcore FOMO when the next gen beats the brakes off of your card a few months after you buy it.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 5:56 pm to
AMD Ryzen 9000 desktop series with 16, 12, 8 and 6 Zen5 core configs reportedly launches in July

As the article mentions, the x3D has generally launched about 6 months later, so we could potentially be seeing a 9800x3D in very late Q4 or early 2025 if this shakes out to be accurate.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:15 pm to
Are we prepared for if the 7800x3d out performs these in gaming?
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Are we prepared for if the 7800x3d out performs these in gaming?

I have nothing to back this up, but if I were to just throw a dart, I would expect the 7800x3D to out perform the 9800x in very cache sensitive games, with the 9800x either trading blows or outperforming it in games that aren't particularly cache sensitive, though I would still expect the older x3D chip to have better 1% lows.

But again, pure speculation.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 3:32 am to
so i have an Ethernet cable question that's more someone else confirming my thoughts than anything.

Ran and crimped my first cable this past weekend through the house with no luck on internet making it to my computer. I have a tester and it's reading no signal on the 2 and 3 pin. Just to confirm......that means it could be a problem ANYWHERE from one connector to the next including a short somewhere in the wire, right?

I'm just really hoping it's a bad crimp-job before I have to run another 60-75 feet through some pain in the arse crawl areas in the attic. It's hot as a bitch up there and I really do NOT want to do that again.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:35 am to
I would cross post this on Tech. We have a few guys that really know their networking, and while they sometimes post here, you can usually catch them more quickly in a dedicated thread over there.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:49 am to
I honestly forgot that board existed.

I spoke with a friend knowledgeable about this stuff. He said usually this happens because people aren’t putting the crimping tool on a flat, sturdy surface and it causes the wires to move around or the pins to not properly crimp. I was definitely just holding it in my hand the entire time. So I’m just going to snip the ends off and re-punch them.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:24 pm to
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I just repunched both ends and it works great now.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Very nice. Love it when solutions are the easy ones
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:58 am to
Welp... took the plunge and finally bought a new GPU, and gonna get one last run out of AM4.

Upgrading my ITX build with new parts:

5800x3d (New)
Fractal Lumen S24 V2 Cooler (New)
B550i Aorus Pro AX (Reusing)
Teamgroup DDR4-3200 32 GB 14-14-14-34 (Reusing)
WD SN750 500 GB (Reusing)
SK Hynix P31 2GB (Reusing)
RTX4080 Super FE (New)
Corsair SF750 (New)
Lian Li A4-H20 (New)

Gonna try to get 3-4 more years out of AM4 before moving to a new platform
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 3:20 pm to
So, I haven't kept up with all the changes and am just now getting a little up to speed on current hardware and (potentially) revolutionary changes on the horizon - so with that out of the way:

Just how big a deal are NPU considerations, the upcoming ARM chip explosion, Windows 12 (maybe?) for a current, mid-2024 build? I know if the need isn't necessarily pressing, one can always wait and the parts always get better/cheaper, more future-proof, but are these things legit concerns to cause a wait of 6 months or a year just to see how all these things evolve?

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:58 pm to
I'm not particularly concerned about NPUs and ARM chips, but I wouldn't build right now unless I had to. New generations of CPUs from both AMD and Intel are getting released in the next couple of months, and the next round of Nvidia GPUs should be released Q4. I would wait six months for those reasons alone.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 9:14 pm to
Watching the AMD keynote now. I'll edit this post with thoughts as it goes:

AMD is claiming a 16% IPC uplift from Zen 4. I don't know if I believe it, but if it's true, that's impressive. Last gen IPC uplift was about 10%.

ETA: And... I think that's it. I'm watching it at 1.5x speed, and 90% has been AI shite

Interestingly, it seems like AMD is pushing AI heavily in their laptop chips, but not their mainstream desktop chips. I assume it's a silicon space issue, but don't actually know.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:28 am to
The 9600X and 9700X being 65W is interesting I guess.
Do y'all think we'll get Arrow Lake today or not until September?
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:15 am to
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The 9600X and 9700X being 65W is interesting I guess. Do y'all think we'll get Arrow Lake today or not until September?

I think we’ll know more tonight, but if you mean release, I wouldn’t expect to see them be released until Q4. Most people’s expected cadence is Granite Ridge in July, Arrow Lake in November or so, and Granite Ridge x3D in December or so as an answer.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 12:30 pm
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