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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Fun Bunch


How do you know how long a wine has to set before it's drinking well? I've typically relied on 3 years of age or older, and never buy anything younger than that unless i'm aging it at the house. But again, i'm more of a beer nerd than a wine guy but i do lie a good red.

One of my favorite bottles was Ferrari Carano Tresor 2015. The first pour was very blackberry/jammy up front. And that vintage, isn't too bad in terms of price.

This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35587 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:45 pm to
The answer is it depends. For most aging wines three years is nothing. I have a few bottles of a 1998 Brunello that are drinking incredibly well now. I'll drink 2010 and earlier right now unless it's a wine that is made to drink now.

You also need to know if the wine is one that can age. There's nothing worse than tasting a corked or spoilt wine because it sat in the bottle too long. Learn what wines age and what wines don't.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:57 pm to
Some apps, like Cellar Tracker, will often give a drinking window. this is probably the best for normal people like us. Sometimes the producers themselves will provide it. Reviewers and wine experts like Jancis Robinson may also provide them.

This is a very general statement but the more tannins a wine has the more it *may* need to soften, time will soften them. So that's generally why a lot of higher end, high tannin wines like Cab or Aglianico etc can age for awhile.

Most of the time it has to do with acidity, is my understanding.

Burgundy are Pinot Noir so not generally high tannin but can age for many years, so obviously there is more going on than just that.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:58 pm to
Like 95%+ of all wines sold are ready to drink now.

You can age some of them, but you don't need to.

Most wines won't even benefit from age.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5811 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:25 pm to
How’s Bleu Provence doing? Their cellar make it out ok with Ian?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35587 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:38 pm to
For where they are located they did surprisingly well. They reopened soon after Ian. My understanding is that the wine was all saved.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:29 pm to
Agreed- Cellar Tracker is the best as it has a lot of wine reviews by regular people who happen to be pretty knowledgeable about wine. Vivino is fine but you have to sort through a lot of "smooth but not as good as Caymus" stuff.

Good news is they're finally upgrading the app.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:34 pm to
Cellar Tracker's interface is definitely not for everyone. They really need to improve it, but some people just like it that way.

No 1 source is perfect.

Vivino is what it is. Its for the masses. But it can be helpful.

quote:

Vivino is fine but you have to sort through a lot of "smooth but not as good as Caymus" stuff.



You ain't lyin
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35587 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:15 pm to
God, I hate Caymus,
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:49 am to
I have 3 bottles sitting at home that people gifted me because I 'love wine'.

It is what it is. People that aren't into wine love it. Its a big arse oak fruit sugar bomb that tastes the same most of the time because of how they manipulate it.

The thing is you can get "better" cabs for half the price but if someone loves it whatever.

I try to recommend other wines to them that are similar when I can
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:51 am to
I will say, Caymus Special Selection is quite good.

Regular Caymus should be $35 a bottle
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:

I will say, Caymus Special Selection is quite good.



Agreed, that is actually a good wine. I have a bottle at home I need to drink (also a gift lol)

quote:

Regular Caymus should be $35 a bottle



Maybe 50 with todays prices, but where it is priced now is pretty ridiculous for what it is.

But Napa Cabs are all outrageously priced now
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116296 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:48 pm to
Or he would be happy with the dough they are absolutely rolling in now

Bonanza sells off the shelves, and every McMansion in America has a bottle of Caymus prominently displayed
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
2531 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:23 pm to
I agree but I am going to buy a few of the 50th Anniversary bottles that are only preorder right now. I’ll drink one and sit on the others.
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