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NOLA industry folks: How much do you think they spent on the buildout of Pigeon and Whale?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116160 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:23 pm
Was talking about this the other day with some people. They had to spend a LOT on an already existing space. If you had ever been in there previously, its extremely different, and they added a lot of what look like expensive features and design elements.

They've done a real good job of turning it into a big time hotspot. They smartly made Cocktails and Desserts really interesting so every table in the place orders both, both huge revenue generators.

Regardless, anyone have any ideas on what they had to spend on that build out?
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13394 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:58 pm to
No clue but I know rent isn’t cheap there and the landlord isn’t good.

You’re right about the drinks and desserts. That lemon dessert is so good. I do wish the bar program was more varied vs focus on gin.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13394 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:04 pm to
Looking at old pics of Bar Frances, it may not have been that extensive. Biggest costs to my eye would be custom exterior facade, custom bar shelving and lights, new flooring. Not sure if they had to revamp the kitchen too (I’d guess they did); that could add substantial costs.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116160 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:15 pm to
Maybe it just seems very expensive. They did a good job for sure.
Posted by TheLegend
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
2742 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 5:23 pm to
I still need to check out Pigeon and Whale. This is John Michael's place right?
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11865 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:41 pm to
Have you been in Taco Del Cartel in CBD. That also seemed like an expensive buildout.
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
2217 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:36 am to
John Michael from Superior?
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13394 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:09 am to
quote:

John Michael from Superior?

Yeah, same guy. It’s him and the chef from Station 6.
Posted by Anguyen504
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
602 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:53 am to
Their happy hour legit? I was thinking about going today
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116160 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:09 am to
Never done the HH but it looks legit.
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