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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:40 pm to Captain Crackysack
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:40 pm to Captain Crackysack
I've caught some damn nice lemonfish on their anchorchains but I never realized they were drawing THAT much
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Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
They can carry about 2 million barrels of oil
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:44 pm to Captain Crackysack
Weeks Marine finna eat
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:57 pm to Captain Crackysack
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corpus Christi will never over take the lower Mississippi. They could dredge the channel to 100 feet.
That's not the point. Yes, you are correct, a port that serves traffic from over 1/3rd of the Continental US should never be eclipsed by a port that doesn't even serve all of South Texas.
But why should they even be in the ballpark of your existing ship channels, not to mention eclipsing yours?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:02 pm to SWCBonfire
The LOOP has been handling VLCCs for 3 decades. With the existence of an offshore oil port, there was previously no logistical reason to accommodate vessels over 45 feet. Now with the neopanamax vessels having access to the gulf, there is a logistical reason to go to 50 feet, and that's exactly what they are doing
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:04 pm to SWCBonfire
Its also just a whole different ballgame. VLCCs coming into corpus have to travel like a couple miles. If that. And they have like 6 escort tugs the whole time. It would be a logistical nightmare to escort a VLCC 100+ miles up the river
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:05 pm to wheelr
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Why is it a new project? Couldn't they just start going deeper during their routine operations?
Current agreement for maintenance dredging is for 45ft at no cost to the non-federal sponsor. Going to 50ft requires a percentage to be paid for by the State of Louisiana. I believe eve the Soy Transportation Board in Iowa kicked in money as well to get to the 50ft depth.
This is huge ..... likely to trigger some bigger announcements of investment in the State.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:20 pm to Shamwow
Also there is a lot of oil/gas infrastructure that crosses the river. Most of the older lines were just laid on bottom or just below the channel bottom. Some of these pipelines will need to be replaced with HDDs and removed before they could dredge those areas to 50-ft.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:27 pm to Captain Crackysack
Can they dredge up the LSU lakes as a side project? I think they would really benefit from it if they were deeper. Less algal blooms and send the dredged up material south.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:32 pm to red sox fan 13
That is under design at the moment I believe.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:33 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Good news. Amazing what a difference a couple feet makes.
Just imagine what a couple of inches could do for you Sid.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 3:39 pm to Captain Crackysack
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Its also just a whole different ballgame. VLCCs coming into corpus have to travel like a couple miles. If that. And they have like 6 escort tugs the whole time. It would be a logistical nightmare to escort a VLCC 100+ miles up the river
Fair point.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 4:56 pm to Captain Crackysack
In the early 80's, Calcasieu was annually dredged to 45 feet when project depth was 40 feet. That last 5 feet was watery silt shortly after dredged.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 5:00 pm to Captain Crackysack
It is already a difference going up the Mississippi than anywhere else along the Gulf Coast due time involved. and not pilotage (especially if multiple required) but tugs, etc... If it were not for the economy of barges to and from way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers, cost would but NOLA and upstream out of business for ocean shipping.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 5:07 pm to CitizenK
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If it were not for the economy of barges to and from way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers
So if it weren’t for the cheapness of shipping shite on the River, river ports wouldn’t exist? Intredasting
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 5:36 pm to Captain Crackysack
I hope they dump the mud in the marshes. This freshwater diversion bullshite doesn’t work.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 5:48 pm to bakersman
Alliance refinery finna eat
Posted on 8/1/20 at 5:54 pm to Lsutiger2424
It 100% works. It was designed to deliver freshwater into the marsh. And it does just that. The area around Caernarvon is thriving with freshwater shite.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 6:54 pm to Jackie Chan
If its dredged to 50 foot, I'm not taking a 49.9 depth ship through it ...........sorry. You won't get my business.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 7:16 pm to jeffsdad
You gotta get it up on plane 
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