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re: Kentucky’s first covid 19 patient was denied testing twice

Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:08 pm to
Are you a fricking moron?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20949 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Are you a fricking moron?


So clear, so effective... this is sig worthy .
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:13 pm to
You know what’s really bad about this is I’m about to be elbow deep in this shite but can’t really talk about it more or I’ll dox myself.

Suffice to say I now know how mrcarton felt in all those Middle East Policy threads
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:13 pm to
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The government has fricked this process entirely


It makes you wish we had a competent leader that could actually protect the people.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69403 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:14 pm to
I'm genuinely curious as to why you guys think the president is telling the cdc not to test? Those guidelines don't come from his office.

If you believe the wapo, the contamination of the first set of testing kits is the cause behind the delay.

luckily, it look like starting monday is when the testing will ramp up.

We couldn't risk creating millions of potentially contaminated kits.
Posted by Tacoma Tiger
Tacoma, WA
Member since Dec 2011
920 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:14 pm to
From reading the hospital's statement, I have to agree that he didn't meet criteria for testing when he first presented to the ED, unless he had travel or a known exposure that they aren't disclosing.

When he presented to the hospital the second time and was admitted due to his condition, he should have met criteria right then and there.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11826 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:14 pm to
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You know what’s really bad about this is I’m about to be elbow deep in this shite but can’t really talk about it more or I’ll dox myself.

I hope you try to share as much as you can with us. I know I'd appreciate it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54237 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:15 pm to
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It makes you wish we had a competent leader that could actually protect the people.


We're listening. What would you do different to remedy the situation?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:15 pm to
Hey dumbass, I never blamed or even mentioned trump.

But for your education, the state health departments get their direction from the CDC.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:16 pm to
I know what you mean but damn, I want to see it. Also I’m hoping the veil is being lifted a little for you but this is an exceptional situation.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:16 pm to
He didn’t meet criteria. That is correct.
The criteria need to change. I can 100% guarantee you this exact scenario in Kentucky has already happened before.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126989 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:17 pm to
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You can't test every person that wants it.

But isn’t that what the President said?
I haven’t seen or heard him say that. Can you provide a link or a quote? Thanks.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:17 pm to
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I'm genuinely curious as to why you guys think the president is telling the cdc not to test? Those guidelines don't come from his office.


I’m genuinely curious as to why you don’t see that the fact that you believe that’s what is being claimed exposes your own bias.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:17 pm to
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He didn’t meet criteria. That is correct. The criteria need to change
Are you asserting that one can set up a criteria that NEVER rejects someone who turns out to be positive?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126989 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:18 pm to
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You know what’s really bad about this is I’m about to be elbow deep in this shite but can’t really talk about it more or I’ll dox myself.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69403 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:18 pm to
I am not in medicine so I don't know

but I read in a wapo article that cdc officials determine the testing criteria.

I don't believe the pres or anyone in his cabinet controls that.

I could be wrong though.

I assume the cdc is given wide discretionary power to deal with outbreaks.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69403 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:19 pm to
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I’m genuinely curious as to why you don’t see that the fact that you believe that’s what is being claimed exposes your own bias.


You went after trump in your first reply to this thread.

I don't care if you want to praise trump for the handling of it or trash him for his handling, I don't get why we can't discuss the outbreak and cdc handling of it without invoking the pres.

I want to see discussion about the outbreak, not your opinion on him.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:21 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:20 pm to
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Topping a week of conflicting statements from the administration about how many tests the U.S. is now able to administer for the coronavirus, President Donald Trump on Friday told reporters at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta that “anybody who wants a test gets a test.”

U.S. health officials started the week by defending themselves to members of Congress for a shortage of tests across the country. That shortage, along with tight restrictions from the CDC on who could be tested, allowed infected people to go undetected and further spread it, say health experts.

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