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re: Trump Admin wants to allow adoption organizations to deny gay couples

Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by Dinosaur Vacuum
Member since Mar 2017
51 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
Amen. The Alphabet People can live whatever kind of fricked-up lives they like, but they have no right at all to drag children into them. They are selfish, sick and dangerous for desiring to do so.

They made their choices, now they have to live with them.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Some of them can’t.


Like?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17819 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:04 pm to
In 27 pages has there been any discussion of the merits of the actual proposal, or has it been all about muh gheys?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7642 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:06 pm to
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"a 2000 old poorly translated book".


there is not one part of this statement that is false.
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You can't throw out one worldview in favor of another for no other reason than you don't like its foundation.




but that is exactly what is happening you are throwing out other's worldview in favor of yours based on the fact you don't like it's foundation? Do you even get how hypocritical you are being here?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6529 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:07 pm to
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In 27 pages has there been any discussion of the merits of the actual proposal, or has it been all about muh gheys?



Cliffnotes:

Some people think gays are bad people and are unfit to be parents

Others think orphans shouldnt be deprived of a home regardless of the parents sexual orientation

Arguing and bickering ensures
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7642 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:08 pm to
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The Alphabet People can live whatever kind of fricked-up lives they like, but they have no right at all to drag children into them. They are selfish, sick and dangerous for desiring to do so.


that is opinion not fact.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Wanting to frick the same sex is a disorder.


Why?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5885 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:24 pm to
the merit is muh gheys. If you take federal or state funds you should not be able to discriminate.

The bible causing bull shite discussion not to mention wars since the day a Roman Emperor had it written to control people.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Why?

LOL

I know the silly game you want to play but, it's still a silly game.

Simple.

We are designed as opposite sexes for a reason. This really isn't complicated at all.

And, before you say, "but animals......"

Guess what. Animals can and do have mental disorders too. Many of the same ones found in humans
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:28 pm to
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the merit is muh gheys. If you take federal or state funds you should not be able to discriminate.

The Federal govt discriminates.

The very invention of protected groups is discrimination.

Discrimination is normal.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6529 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Guess what. Animals can and do have mental disorders too. Many of the same ones found in humans





This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:29 pm to
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We are designed as opposite sexes for a reason. This really isn't complicated at all.


Disorder doesn’t mean different.

That’s kinda the point your missing

The DSM-5 has criteria.

And being gay doesn’t meet them
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Guess what. Animals can and do have mental disorders too. Many of the same ones found in humans



Are you of the impression that animals can't have mental disorders? Because, the fact they do is pretty well documented.

Unless of course, we're gonna play the "why" game and eliminate the concept of mental disorder entirely.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Disorder doesn’t mean different.

I know

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That’s kinda the point your missing

The DSM-5 has criteria.

I know.

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And being gay doesn’t meet them

It did.

And, then they changed it..........with literally ZERO studies that drove the change. The decision was 100% in response to political pressure. And, frankly, I know you know it.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6529 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:31 pm to
It is absolutely OK to be gay.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:32 pm to
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It did.


It currently DOESN’T

It doesn’t cause distressl or disability

Which is why I pointed out that you can lead a perfectly healthy and happy life.

This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:33 pm to
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It currently DOESN’T


And you know as well as I do not a single study was cited to support the change

it was a political change. I know you know this.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:34 pm to
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And you know as well as I do not a single study was cited to support the change it was a political change. I know you know this.


It was only ever in there because of politics.

It doesn’t meet the criteria. It never met the criteria.

And the “political” pressure was brought by people inside the APA

This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:35 pm to
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It doesn’t cause surreal or disability

There are a great many disorders than don't really do this.

Lots of people with disorders function every single day in a way that no one not paying close attention would even notice.



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