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re: Busch as a DB coach

Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1458 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:04 pm to
Busch suck & LSU just seem to have a problem paying African American coaches.

Just off experience & i know what I’m dealing with on tRant I expect downvotes
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Raymond recruiting California now?



He recruits DBs nationwide
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:07 pm to
Well,
Rutgers went from 68th to 22nd in PDs after Busch's arrival

Wisc was 4th in total defense in 2014 and 7th in 2013

Utah State was perennially sub-60s in PDs and was 4th in Busch's last year there.

Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Ricks visited LSU multiple times and told us he had a great relationship with head coach Ed Orgeron and Tiger DB coach Corey Raymond.


LINK

quote:

Raymond recruiting California now?




He's listed as this kids primary recruiter on 24/7.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:11 pm to
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He's listed as this kids primary recruiter on 24/7.
I saw a 2020 OL recruit today that listed Grimes as his primary recruiter on 247
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26908 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:12 pm to
quote:


Busch suck & LSU just seem to have a problem paying African American coaches.



Lol. Robinson is the highest paid position and, last I checked, is bbbbbblack.
Posted by Tchop
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2004
19 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:13 pm to
Looking at coaching bios, Busch was dc at utah state 09-10. Im assuming he had hand in hiring CR. Aranda hired in 11 as DC, Busch to safeties, CR to Neb
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:14 pm to
This is just plain ignorant.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56471 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:16 pm to
Delpit will be a first rounder.

If he had 9 first rounders in 18 years would that be good?
Posted by bluebengal
Lafayette La
Member since Feb 2018
773 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:16 pm to
Beat me to it! Thank you that post sucked
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:22 pm to
This is ducking stupid
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:23 pm to
Oh look another race baiting a-hole,just what this frickin world needs
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:31 pm to
Vol can you please tell us what your hearing?
There is so much misinformation going on
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:36 pm to
The only thing I know for certain at this moment is that we currently have a raise/extension offer on the table for CR. His interview with UGA was late morning/early afternoon today, so anyone claiming numbers or offers made before that are full of shite. I'm leaning towards CR really just using this to sweeten the pot on our side to exactly where he wants it, but it's still definitely worth keeping an eye on. UGA is going to have to do something drastic to make CR accept and leave LSU.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:40 pm to
Thanks.
And what about the Ohio State "offer"
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:


Wisc was 4th in total defense in 2014 and 7th in 2013


So having Aranda there had little to do with that?

quote:

Rutgers went from 68th to 22nd in PDs after Busch's arrival


Again, I am not saying Busch is chopped liver. He's a safety coach far and away historically, and that is the key. I think he can handle overall strategy but CB technique has not been something he has a proven track record of performing.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Delpit will be a first rounder.

If he had 9 first rounders in 18 years would that be good?




I think he's done an excellent job with Delpit this season. Busch is a good coach, but he's historically been solely a Safety coach throughout his career. he's only coached full secondary a handful of time.

Furthermore, why did our other safeties look mediocre to bad this year? Battle regressed even. Again, Stevens was being coached as a LBer most of the offseason and season.

The point of the post is just that people thinking Busch will easily replace Raymond are being naive. His history doesn't prove that.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56471 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Furthermore, why did our other safeties look mediocre to bad this year?
cause our CBs were out of position

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14449 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Again, I am not saying Busch is chopped liver. He's a safety coach far and away historically, and that is the key. I think he can handle overall strategy but CB technique has not been something he has a proven track record of performing.

Really? How did you come to that assumption? His coaching history:

COACHING EXPERIENCE
1989 Nebraska Wesleyan (graduate assistant/defensive ends
1990-93 Nebraska (graduate assistant/secondary)
1994 Wisconsin (graduate assistant)
1995-96 Northern Arizona (secondary, 1995; co-defensive coordinator/secondary, 1996)
1997-00 New Mexico State (secondary)
2001-03 Utah State (safeties, 2001-02; secondary, 2003)
2004-07 Nebraska (outside linebackers/special teams coordinator, 2004; safeties/special teams coordinator, 2005-07)
2009-12 Utah State (defensive coordinator, 2009-10; associate head coach/safeties/special teams coordinator, 2011-12)
2013-14 Wisconsin (safeties)
2015 Ohio State (defensive quality control)
2016-17 Rutgers (defensive backs, 2016; co-defensive coordinator/defensive backs, 2017)
2018 LSU (safeties)
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:37 pm to
Do not want raymond meddling in the frickin defense. Aran da is our only DC and it should stay that way. That's the only thing I do not want and we should let raymond go if that's the case. Don't frick with arandas defense.
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