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re: Pool people - Is it worth it to install one??

Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:13 pm to
Put in a pool at my house. We freaking love that thing. During the summer, there a very few days that I don't get in the pool.

Plus on the weekends, someone always is up for BBQing and drinking beer.

I have yet to find a reason that I hate having it
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:27 pm to
My dad is selling his house right now, and I think he'd sleep in his car before he bought another house with a pool.

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A friend of mine who's in the insurance bidness always says that there are 2 things you absolutely cannot afford from a liability standpoint.


This is one of the main reasons, even moreso than the upkeep. He is horrified of what would happen in a lawsuit.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38595 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:34 pm to
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The people saying this really have no idea what they are talking about. If you consider emptying out the catch basket and the polaris once a week (maybe) a second job, then I want your first job.

Pools these days, properly installed, really don't take much if any maintenance.



When you cut the grass once a week too. Stinking swimming pools are like a grass vortex.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:36 pm to
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Find another person or organization to join with a pool.

The ONLY upside (to me) is the low-impact of exercise in water. Solution: Join a gym with a pool.



Good advice.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:50 pm to
I have a pool maintenance and repair business that is more a side biz now, but I was hot and heavy in it for about 7 years. Was a great experience for me to run my own operation in my 20's.

I've never lived in your part of the world so I won't have connects or insider knowledge of specific companies but I can answer just about anything else and give you pros and cons of each option.

One thing that I've seen a big boom on in the last 5 years is outdoor living spaces. People used to fit the largest pool they could get into their yard, but as the kids grow up and leave it becomes wasted space. Outdoor kitchens and bars, brick pizza ovens, pergolas, fire rings with seating and vegetation cover are really popular in my area.

If this is your dream house and you don't plan on leaving anytime in the next 25 years, then a pool is a great investment in intangibles. I can say for certain that most families that have a pool seem to be a little closer and relaxed. They play outside together and joke around and they have more leisure time and can just relax around the house. It can be a tool to teach responsibility and a punishment. There will be ancillary costs every year. I typically advise folks to plan for $2k a year in upkeep, chems, and repairs. Some years you'll have less than that maybe 500. Take the left over money and throw an enormous end of season bash, or stash it back and keep stashing it back so when you need to have the pool resurfaced or re-tiled, or the winter cover needs replaced or a pump burns up you won't go out of pocket. Think of it like a flexible spending account that employers have for their employees.

If you really want an entertainment spot to bring the family over, throw shindigs with your friends, and impress clients then take the time to plan, and find a landscape architecture student or spend the money get a pro. I wouldn't piecemeal it together, go in with a comprehensive plan, don't forget room for the putting green and sand trap, and design the perfect zen spot for your family and then you can choose which projects to tackle first and which hold the most importance to you.

Safety is a something to not gloss over too, budget for locking gates and sturdy fencing around the perimeter.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38595 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:53 pm to
So you saying people with pools have a better family life? Not buying. Didn't work out so well for Casey Anthony.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by MarylandTiger
Near Frederick, MD
Member since Nov 2011
8 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
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What about Calcium? Surely you add that more than once in the spring.


The first couple of years my kids generated a lot of splash out and towards the end of the summer I would have to add a bit of Calcium. The last few years there's been a lot less diving board usage and haven't had to add any additional calcium. I monitor the water chemistry frequently, and usually start with a hardness of around 300-320 ppm. It might dip to 280 or so by the end of the summer but still in acceptable range.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
If you can commit to maintenance. It will not increase your home's value by even half of what you pay for it. Barely a quarter, if that.

But if you will use it a lot it's not a terrible investment. Especially if you have kids. The problem is, a lot of people get them and use them a lot for a couple summers then stop using it.

Saltwater is easier maintenance but I hate it, personally.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:02 pm to
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Pools will not add value to your home when you try to sell it. 


This is not entirely true. It will add value in some instances, but you will most likely never recoup the cost of installing one. In other words, you better get your money's worth out of it.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:11 pm to
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I live in Maryland, so I get to use it about 5 months/year.


I'm betting you aren't using it now.
Posted by Ton Chou
On the Levee
Member since Feb 2010
757 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:32 pm to
No crap. 63 year old father in law has 18x36 liner pool with regular chemicals. Runs filter year round and spends about 500 a year in chems and other stuff and it adds about 60 bucks a month to electric bill. He might spend an hour a week on it. Installed with all equip and about 5 ft of concrete around it and u looking at about 30 k. I don't know where these nightmarish a scenarios come from.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25368 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:37 pm to
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Pools are a nightmare for 90-95% of home owners


It gets old ..after 2 years I swam about twice a year but it brought massive joy to the kids so it was worth. Did NOT get a pool when we moved.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17052 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:49 pm to
I didn't install my pool to gain value for my house. The house is 4000 sq feet, it's got plenty of value as is.

The reason I installed my pool was for fun and memories and that's pretty much it. Every weekend someone is in the pool and we are always hanging out enjoying it.

I have watched quite a few summer LSU baseball games in my pool on the tv in the pool bar. I am ready for that again this summer

It was worth the cost to me because I have had so much fun using it
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:05 pm to
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I have watched quite a few summer LSU baseball games in my pool on the tv in the pool bar. I am ready for that again this summer


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Fat and Happy

Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:12 pm to
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I'm filling mine in this week if that helps


i did that last year and haven't missed it one damn bit, and neither have my kids.
pools: i wanted one as a kid, had one as an adult, and now have it our of my system.
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7022 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:22 pm to
re: Pool people - Is it worth it to install one?? (Posted on 3/3/14 at 3:28 pm to VaBamaMan)
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do this many people actually have an above ground pools? I hope it is a joke?
Cheaper. Can make them look non-trashy. Easy/quick removal.
what's not to love


Perfume it all you want it's still a pig.






Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7583 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Find another person or organization to join with a pool.

The ONLY upside (to me) is the low-impact of exercise in water. Solution: Join a gym with a pool.


<<< Doesn't swim in public pools.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 8:25 pm
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7583 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:27 pm to
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I had a pool drawn up with an out door kitchen two years and I got several estimates from 150K to 200k. So prepare your wallet



How much of that was the pool? A typical pool is no where near that cost.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7583 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:28 pm to
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That said, I'm putting one in the new house as we speak.



Did you take my advice on the heat pump?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28307 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:28 pm to
Bout time you show up.
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