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re: Harvesting timber on 20 acres
Posted on 4/17/13 at 12:53 am to Hammertime
Posted on 4/17/13 at 12:53 am to Hammertime
Hammertime, I'm hoping to thin some property for the first time this year. One 40 acres parcel of mixed, mostly pine is probably past due at around 20 years old. Another 80 acre parcel is probably in need of a few years more growth, at least the majority but I'd like it done where needed.
I use the land for hunting and want to cut to maximize this aspect honestly more than the profit gained. Do you run into this often (I assume you are a forester)? Do you have any advice? I have a list of foresters in my area (Monroe County, AL) but no clue who to hire as the consultant. Should I use someone who consults only or someone employed by a timber/logging company? I'd really like a forester to give me the truth and recommendations on loggers who can do the thinning to maximize my hunting and cause the least amount of headaches and issues...also if you have someone you'd recommend in my area they would be my first call! TIA!
I use the land for hunting and want to cut to maximize this aspect honestly more than the profit gained. Do you run into this often (I assume you are a forester)? Do you have any advice? I have a list of foresters in my area (Monroe County, AL) but no clue who to hire as the consultant. Should I use someone who consults only or someone employed by a timber/logging company? I'd really like a forester to give me the truth and recommendations on loggers who can do the thinning to maximize my hunting and cause the least amount of headaches and issues...also if you have someone you'd recommend in my area they would be my first call! TIA!
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 9:15 am to alexanderjcoop
Believe it or not, a lot of the bigger timber companies lease out their timber land to hunting clubs. I know of a few properties that are straight plantation pine, and use game trails and food plots to their advantage. They also employ wildlife biologists to advise them on what to do because they have now found out how much money can be make for multi-use stands. I know of a couple of properties down here that make a fair amount off of letting people have bee boxes on their land.
If it is mixed HWP(hardwood/pine), you are gonna want to thin the pine and take out the hardwoods that are past their prime and may be rotting out or reducing the growth potential of other trees. One the other hand, you can also take out smaller saplings to help the larger trees grow better/faster. Trees grow in an area based loosely off of topography, which also controls soil type. You will get pine trees in more acidic soils, and in younger sections, and oak trees in other older sections.
Without seeing the property or knowing the location of mills in your area, I couldn't tell you what would come out of there as far as types of lumber and the value of it.
People who work for a timber company probably have a non-compete clause somewhere in their hiring, and wouldn't be able to cruise your property unless you had plans of selling it to them. Use a consulting forester, and to be honest, you can have 2 or 3 come out there and give you advice as to what you need to do.
Pine tree forestry is the easiest kind because their are growth numbers for your area that include things like soil type mainly. Everything is already mapped out for them and they have to do no work. Hardwood forestry is basically an art. You can have two foresters with 30 years experience, trying to reach the same objective, and they will disagree on the prescription. Mixed HWP is a little easier because you can manipulate the interior and edges to change the stand to hardwoods, making funnels for animals.
Don't know anyone in that area though, sorry. Tell them you want to maximize the property for hunting, but also need the money for something. If you don't say anything about the money, you might get ripped off. Sad to say, but people do this.
FWIW, Weyerhauser and Soterra clearcut anywhere between 17 and 24 yrs old. We have some of the best soil for pine growth in the country though.
If it is mixed HWP(hardwood/pine), you are gonna want to thin the pine and take out the hardwoods that are past their prime and may be rotting out or reducing the growth potential of other trees. One the other hand, you can also take out smaller saplings to help the larger trees grow better/faster. Trees grow in an area based loosely off of topography, which also controls soil type. You will get pine trees in more acidic soils, and in younger sections, and oak trees in other older sections.
Without seeing the property or knowing the location of mills in your area, I couldn't tell you what would come out of there as far as types of lumber and the value of it.
People who work for a timber company probably have a non-compete clause somewhere in their hiring, and wouldn't be able to cruise your property unless you had plans of selling it to them. Use a consulting forester, and to be honest, you can have 2 or 3 come out there and give you advice as to what you need to do.
Pine tree forestry is the easiest kind because their are growth numbers for your area that include things like soil type mainly. Everything is already mapped out for them and they have to do no work. Hardwood forestry is basically an art. You can have two foresters with 30 years experience, trying to reach the same objective, and they will disagree on the prescription. Mixed HWP is a little easier because you can manipulate the interior and edges to change the stand to hardwoods, making funnels for animals.
Don't know anyone in that area though, sorry. Tell them you want to maximize the property for hunting, but also need the money for something. If you don't say anything about the money, you might get ripped off. Sad to say, but people do this.
FWIW, Weyerhauser and Soterra clearcut anywhere between 17 and 24 yrs old. We have some of the best soil for pine growth in the country though.
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