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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:39 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:39 pm to boxcarbarney
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So Jon's coming back?
To add to this, there's a couple things that make me think he is (outside of what's been mentioned).
First, if Martin wanted him dead I'd think he would have him cut down with something more than a couple stabs from a knife or two. Why do that when you could take him down with a sword instead and leave no doubt.
My newest crackpot theory to that is Melisandre has now realized that Jon is Azor Ahai reborn and she had it done so that he could be reborn.
Second, his arc hasn't finished yet. By a long shot. Just too many unanswered questions. He is also able to warg and others have warged into their animals to save their souls so to speak.
Lastly, Martin did an interview awhile back and when something was said about Jon being dead he said, "So you think he's dead ah?" in a manner that suggests that he's still alive in some shape or form. Especially since Martin has had a history of setting wayward fans right on theories and etc.
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Especially since Martin has had a history of setting wayward fans right on theories and etc.
He is way more giving to the fans than most writers are.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
Another theory/prophecy that I think is in the process of coming to fruition is Mirri Maz Duur's Prophecy regarding Dany and the return of Khal Drogo.
If you remember the prophecy went as this:
There is some speculation that this is all partly metaphorical in the sense that the sun rising in the west is Quentyn Martell (the sun's son) who journeyed from west to east to see Dany. That the seas going dry is the Dothraki grasses drying up (see Dany's last chapter in aDwD). That the mountains blowing in the wind like leaves is the pyramids of Mereen crumbling in smoke and ash. And that her womb did indeed quicken again when she either had a very heavy period or miscarriage in her last aDwD chapter.
Naturally this leaves the need for a living child which I think we may very well get from her either via Victarion or someone else.
Lastly, it's suggested that she'll name this child Drogo as his reincarnation (in name at least). Or that she will see Drogo again when she dies.
If you remember the prophecy went as this:
quote:
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he (Drogo) will return, and not before."
There is some speculation that this is all partly metaphorical in the sense that the sun rising in the west is Quentyn Martell (the sun's son) who journeyed from west to east to see Dany. That the seas going dry is the Dothraki grasses drying up (see Dany's last chapter in aDwD). That the mountains blowing in the wind like leaves is the pyramids of Mereen crumbling in smoke and ash. And that her womb did indeed quicken again when she either had a very heavy period or miscarriage in her last aDwD chapter.
Naturally this leaves the need for a living child which I think we may very well get from her either via Victarion or someone else.
Lastly, it's suggested that she'll name this child Drogo as his reincarnation (in name at least). Or that she will see Drogo again when she dies.
This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
It wouldn't surprise me if Mel had Jon killed so his rebirth could happen as AA. Remember, in her POV she had a clouded view of Stannis/her king/AA and only saw "snow". Perhaps she figured it out?
Posted on 9/21/12 at 1:52 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Second, his arc hasn't finished yet. By a long shot. Just too many unanswered questions. He is also able to warg and others have warged into their animals to save their souls so to speak.
I definitely think part of it will be him surviving in Ghost for a while. Hence the inclusion of that Varymyr Sixskins prologue that was a how-to on slipping skins.
This post was edited on 9/21/12 at 1:53 pm
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