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re: D1Baseball Nerdcast: 5/20/24 - Projecting Field of 64 Update: LSU in (link posted)

Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70701 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Playing teams like VMI, Stoney Brook, Xavier, etc isn’t really helping you.


Xavier was a super regional team last year and were on the verge of being Q1 wins going into the last weekend of the regular season. They played one of the hardest non-conference schedules in the country and that's even with late season rain outs against Kentucky and Oklahoma State.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with playing Xavier.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8132 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:34 pm to
LSU should never be playing a school like VMI. It provides no benefit to us whatsoever, besides letting fans get excited that we got a bunch of hits and scored a bunch of runs off of some dude that throws 75mph.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1961 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:37 pm to
LSU doesn't play SEC teams in regional. I like our chances to move on. I really think they need win 2 games in SEC tournament.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3830 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:39 pm to
Three Louisiana schools.
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:43 pm to
Solidly in the field not even last 4 in. I would still like to beat UGA tomorrow to boost that RPI a 2-4 spots and be guaranteed though
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3061 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:45 pm to
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In basketball, some coaches are good at manipulating RPI by scheduling beatable teams that will compete for their conference championship and a tournament bid.


Xavier was exactly that kind of team and I think they hoped Stoney Brook would be. The bigger problem for LSU is the overall weakness of midweek games, which is mostly dependent on state schools being better than they were this year.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30416 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:56 pm to
Nice, probay better to be the highest rated 3 than the lowest rated 2 seed
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70701 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:04 pm to
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The bigger problem for LSU is the overall weakness of midweek games, which is mostly dependent on state schools being better than they were this year.


We lost a quality midweek opponent by playing ULL on a weekend. (though this win is better for us as a neutral site than it would have as a home game)

We also had the weird opening two weekends that replaced normal midweeks with probably worse weekend opponents.

We did ourselves a favor with adding the SLU away game. But could do even better for ourselves by mixing in games at LaTech and ULL.

We used to play Lamar in the midweek pretty regularly. They would have been a better schedule addition than North Dakota State.

I like that we're playing Dallas Baptist next year, but the neutral site game will make it almost impossible to watch for fans (the midweek games at Globe Life weren't broadcast this year) and will neutralize the positive RPI effect.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14629 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:05 pm to
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letting fans get excited that we got a bunch of hits and scored a bunch of runs off of some dude that throws 75mph.

There was more frustration than excitement from watching this lineup struggle against rag arms frequently during the non-conference schedule.

I even recall the announcers using the excuse, "Well, it's hard to time up pitches on a 82 mph fastball when you're used to seeing 95."
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
894 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Xavier was a super regional team last year and were on the verge of being Q1 wins going into the last weekend of the regular season. They played one of the hardest non-conference schedules in the country and that's even with late season rain outs against Kentucky and Oklahoma State. There was absolutely nothing wrong with playing Xavier.


That’s fair, but the point still remains if you replace their name with Central Arkansas, NDSU and NIU…

I guess we should’ve have more Xavier type schools, is the point I was making.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26403 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:34 pm to
Interesting. Does this factor in a possible loss in the first round of the SECT?
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
18046 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:39 pm to
They have no way of knowing how the conference tournaments play out but they do take into consideration in their projections what they expect to happen, including which teams win their tourneys and get the auto-bids.

Being paired with the Lexington regional would be interesting. A possible Super Regional rematch with UK
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:51 pm to
NC State
Arizona
LSU

There isn't any drama associated with that regional. That's a made for TV regional if I've seen one.

Tanks goes back to where he left and has to face his old team that he would have been on.

JJ managing against his old team that hasn't made it out of a regional the last 2 years since he left there.
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
968 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:57 pm to
That isn't true. They had it in this order.
1. Bama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. South Carolina
5. Vandy

They were highly set on Bama Florida and LSU getting in. The real debate was between Vandy and South Carolina if they would get in.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20474 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Not that it would make a huge difference, but I think we could be a little more strategic in the first few series of the year outside of that tournament weekend. Playing teams like VMI, Stoney Brook, Xavier, etc isn’t really helping you. In basketball, some coaches are good at manipulating RPI by scheduling beatable teams that will compete for their conference championship and a tournament bid.


I think next year is the first schedule that Jay will have done completely himself.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:13 pm to
I think there are plenty of northern teams that would love to come down in feb. And March.
Nebraska, Notre Dame, Indiana state, Illinois, Maryland, would all be people I’d call.
I’d also make a west coast trip or invite them over. UCSB, Irvine, San Diego, Long Beach, Fullerton
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
4326 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:15 pm to
We would win that shite, let’s go
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28588 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:16 pm to
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They were highly set on Bama Florida and LSU getting in. The real debate was between Vandy and South Carolina if they would get in.


That's probably based more upon what THEY think should happen vs. what they think the committee will do. Not only do I think it's absurd to have Florida #2 among the 5 SEC bubble teams, I don't think they get in at all. There is noting remarkable about a 28-26 record. One that could fall to 28-27 tomorrow. Playing a great schedule doesn't mean much if you don't actually win many of the games. Otherwise, you'd be completely discounting losing. "Yeah, I know we only won one more game than we lost. But hey! We got our asses kicked by a lot of really good teams. We are #1 in the moral victory standings!!"

I also disagree with LSU being sent to Stillwater. In the last 20+ years LSU has made the tournament as a non-host team only three times (2010, 2018, 2021). Each time they were sent to the west coast. That's not a coincidence. The committee knows that LSU has greater fan support than 99% of college baseball programs and that by sending LSU to any regional except for those furthest away from Louisiana runs the risk of having the host school's crowd greatly outnumbered by LSU fans.

EDT: I think UC Santa Barbra gets a host site....and that's where LSU will get sent.

This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14806 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:32 pm to
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The committee knows that LSU has greater fan support than 99% of college baseball programs and that by sending LSU to any regional except for those furthest away from Louisiana runs the risk of having the host school's crowd greatly outnumbered by LSU fans.


That is the least of the committee's concerns. The finite number of tickets available makes this pretty difficult.
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:36 pm to
I 100% believe this will happen.
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