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re: Let's Run There...Jeremy Renner

Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
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Point still stands…why voluntarily beat your knees and ankles into the ground when there are plenty of other ways to stay fit ?
Besides a bike or elipitcal machine, practically every other way to get cardio in carries more risk of knee or ankle injury than just running. Pickup basketball or tennis come to mind as good ways to stay in shape, but you’re also a lot more likely to hurt your knees doing that compared to going for a jog
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13829 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Besides a bike


Peloton for the win!




Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15942 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Besides a bike or elipitcal machine, practically every other way to get cardio in carries more risk of knee or ankle injury than just running


Swimming
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10483 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Point still stands…why voluntarily beat your knees and ankles into the ground when there are plenty of other ways to stay fit ?


Probably because running is actually protective against degenerative knee and joint dysfunction related to OA?

I swear this is one of the last remaining websites on the internet that continues to perpetuate the falsehood that "running is bad for your knees and joints".

You know what the absolute worse thing you could do for your knees, joints, and spine? Sitting around all day being inactive.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6903 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:51 pm to
Is it true that running in shoes is worse for your knees? I haven't dug into the science but I remember the craze claiming that with the "barefoot" shoes
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10483 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Is it true that running in shoes is worse for your knees? I haven't dug into the science but I remember the craze claiming that with the "barefoot" shoes


Modern day running shoes can promote poor running form due to the insane levels of cushioning in the heel - which can lead to increased running pain and injuries.

Most people will heel strike and run with a low cadence when they're wearing a cushioned pair of runnings shoes. But if you tell them to start running barefoot, suddenly their form completely changes: their cadence is much higher and they're "bouncing" off their mid and forefoot.

The best way to learn proper running form isn't watching a Youtube video or hiring a coach; it's to run around barefoot in your yard to develop the neuromuscular signaling such that the movement feels natural when you throw on a pair of cushioned running shoes.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26619 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
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That post was directed at that individual poster. He could liturallee, ackshually qualify for state-sponsored institutional living.


Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14175 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:06 pm to
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Why you out here flipping tractor tires?

Tire flipping is an excellent movement. Hams, quads, glutes, back, chest, shoulders, and tris. Hits everything and is a very functional movement.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27480 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Besides a bike or elipitcal machine, practically every other way to get cardio in carries more risk of knee or ankle injury than just running. Pickup basketball or tennis come to mind as good ways to stay in shape, but you’re also a lot more likely to hurt your knees doing that compared to going for a jog


Some people just want an excuse to not do anything. It's a way of life for many.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27480 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:15 pm to
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Tornado Alley


Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15856 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:18 pm to
I hurt my knee (left) playing baseball when I was younger. When I got to college, I could do the 4.5 mile daily pitcher’s run through the woods on a trail, actually rarely got any issues in the knee. When I would sprint is when the issues would pop up… I have rocks floating around in my knee that would get caught in the bending joints and cause my whole knee to lock up and collapse. It was pretty painful.

Oddly enough I can still do distance running with no issues at 42 (well, being 42 is an issue but I digress) and bike for long distances but damn if it still doesn’t lock up in a sprint. I once took a PT out on a date and I had her feel my knee for a barstool diagnosis… she looked at it for five seconds and said “yep, total knee replacement.” I injured it when I was 12 but have moved around good enough with it through the years. I see no negative effects on it after I go for a long run or jog.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53983 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:21 pm to
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she looked at it for five seconds and said “yep, total knee replacement.”


Sadly, it's what clinicians have learned to know so it's become the accepted norm many times even when it's not the best option.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13401 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Is it true that running in shoes is worse for your knees? I haven't dug into the science but I remember the craze claiming that with the "barefoot" shoes

No. The barefoot craze led to injuries for most.

It’s not bad to run barefoot or in minimalist shoes here and there, but do not run in them exclusively and work them in slowly.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15856 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:23 pm to
I see no reason to have the surgery. I’ve lived with it for 30 years. The rocks first started floating around and getting jammed in my bending when I would play basketball in high school, so around 98 is when I first noticed them. I’ve done almost every manner of manual labor with it and stay pretty active. Every now and then it will remind me that it’s in bad shape, but I could run for a whole year and never have an issue. It’s pretty weird actually.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59615 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:42 pm to
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You run because you have unresolved mental health issues.

<----guilty

But I also swim, bike, & HIIT.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27480 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:05 pm to
Like I said above, it was a joke to Tornado Alley.

But as someone else said, running (and swim, bike, and HIIT) are all good for your mental health.

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24404 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:34 pm to
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He can tell you endless stories of runners with knee issues.


I can tell you a few too. I know a few older runners that can't run now because of knee issues. Perhaps it is some other reason than the miles they ran for years on concrete but I doubt it.


Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19730 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:49 pm to
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I run 12 miles per day" But why? You are fit already and not training for war. Why do you want to destroy your knees? Same goes for the crossfit crowd. Bro you work an office job and have 3 kids. Why you out here flipping tractor tires?


You were given this body, which is capable of great things, but you never felt the urge to test its capabilities? Nobody gets a corvette and just cruises the speed limit every single time.

That’s a pretty weak life.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11535 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:52 pm to
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fat guy in his mid 40s who could not run a mile and probably has worse knees from being fat


Hey watch your mouth. You know me?
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27480 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:06 pm to
My knees give me problems. I know when to back off and do something else. This late winter and spring I started piling on the miles, again. After my last race I knew it was time to give them a break from the relatively high volume. But that just means another day or two a week of gym, pool, or bike this summer. Less miles this summer on the pavement, but more intensity.

As you age, you just have to know your body and work around it sometimes.
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