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What should be done about investors buying up homes?

Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by MadQfrog
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2021
622 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:17 am
Pretty interesting WSJ article from yesterday:

LINK

It’s behind a paywall, but they are recommending this:
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Forcing large investors to sell rental homes and heavily taxing the investors is the wrong approach (“Home-Buying Firms Draw Lawmakers’ Ire,” Page One, April 30). Legislators should instead change the tax code that makes houses so expensive to families.

Lawmakers should eliminate the tax-code provisions that give investors a huge advantage over family buyers.


The Republican / libertarian side of me wants deregulation and hate this idea of government control/ socialism, but do you think government should be hands off in this matter?

Apparently in Atlanta, this is the case:

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Home buyers and renters in metro Atlanta have some giants to slay if they want to succeed in Georgia’s hot housing market. According to researchers at Georgia State University (GSU), three large corporate landlords own more than 19,000 single-family homes in the five core counties of metro Atlanta — and they’re renting those houses out for a big profit.


LINK

I kind of feel this is a problem, if younger people can’t buy homes because of jacked up prices due to less supply, but I hate government involvement in any sense and hate the idea government telling businesses how to operate.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:18 am
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12095 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:20 am to
Homes and farm land.


Two things that should only be owned by an entity who can occupy/work them.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:21 am to
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I kind of feel this is a problem


Its been a problem for years, its just now showing full effect. People locally screamed about this 5 years ago, and they were right.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30077 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:22 am to
Maybe the 30MM+ poor people streaming across the border every few years has reduced the supply of affordable housing in this country which, if you follow the laws of basic economics, caused prices to rise dramatically?
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424260 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:24 am to
Don't bail them out when it goes belly up as the market shifts.
Posted by TrueTiger
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68472 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:24 am to
How about if you are male/female (the real kind) married couple under 40 your entire mortgage is deductible, with a million $ cap.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50435 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:27 am to
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The Republican / libertarian side of me wants deregulation and hate this idea of government control/ socialism, but do you think government should be hands off in this matter?



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but I hate government involvement in any sense and hate the idea government telling businesses how to operate.


So do you think government should just leave it alone and let things continue to play out?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8464 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:30 am to
Whether I think the government should or should not be involved, when I bought my house, I put in offers on 3 or 4 before I finally bought one. Every house that my offer wasn’t accepted was because of a company out of Baton Rouge coming in with cash.

I believe the push for this generation to stay on the go, can up and move, plus can’t actually buy a house is what the market wants.

Times have changed from the idea you move, buy a house, and raise a family. Those ideals are disappearing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:33 am to
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but I hate government involvement in any sense


Its actually cronyism.

Let a motel try that in a neighborhood and they'll get turned down by zoning.

Investors are being favored over residents.

If someone lives in the home and rents out a room, I dont have issues with it.

This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:35 am to
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Two things that should only be owned by an entity who can occupy/work them.
frick that. If i want to have farm land and keep it fallow, thats my choice. If I want to buy three homes and only live in one, thats my choice.

Now if you want to limit these investors, change the tax code to disincentivize owning more than X number of homes or limit the number of homes you can claim rental income from to X. This would put a cap on it
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2456 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:37 am to
It's been going on for a long time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424260 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:39 am to
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So do you think government should just leave it alone and let things continue to play out?


Yes. When the market flips, the institutional investors will be exponentially screwed.

ETA: kind of like the Airbnb bubble popping
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2179 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:41 am to
We are generally averse to government regulation because its generally negative but sometimes a properly functioning society has to make rules for the betterment of that society. A huge corporation should not own a vast portfolio of residential property. There are other ways to make money than at the expense of your population
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50435 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:43 am to
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Yes. When the market flips, the institutional investors will be exponentially screwed.


Unless they are too big to fail.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2179 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:43 am to
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Yes. When the market flips, the institutional investors will be exponentially screwed. ETA: kind of like the Airbnb bubble popping


Until the people you vote for bail them out

Cant have boomers feeling the slightest squeeze
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:44 am to
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the institutional investors will be exponentially screwed.


I'd put good money that they will get bailed out.

Thats what we do today.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26775 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:45 am to
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Forcing large investors to sell rental homes and heavily taxing the investors is the wrong approach (“Home-Buying Firms Draw Lawmakers’ Ire,” Page One, April 30). Legislators should instead change the tax code that makes houses so expensive to families.

Lawmakers should eliminate the tax-code provisions that give investors a huge advantage over family buyers.

Truth.

Forcing entities to sell their property is not the way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
424260 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:46 am to
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Unless they are too big to fail.

This was covered in the post you replied to. Government being left out means government being left out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:47 am to
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Until the people you vote for bail them out

Libertarians aren't doing that.

Also, back to my initial comment ITT:

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Don't bail them out when it goes belly up as the market shifts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424260 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:47 am to
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I'd put good money that they will get bailed out.

Back to my initial comment:

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Don't bail them out when it goes belly up as the market shifts.
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