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re: Is Bryson the only pro golfer who’s image has improved since joining LIV?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:37 am to Tiger1242
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:37 am to Tiger1242
I glad that Xander won, he has put in the work for sure.
of all of the guys that went to LIV, Bryson is the guy that I miss most.
I appreciate his raw power and his approach to the game. He walks to the beat of his own drum.
I have played in enough Pro-Am's to know that the tour players irons are jacked up loft wise.
That said, it not as easy to hit a 8 iron with a 6 iorn loft as you might think, especially a blade.
of all of the guys that went to LIV, Bryson is the guy that I miss most.
I appreciate his raw power and his approach to the game. He walks to the beat of his own drum.
I have played in enough Pro-Am's to know that the tour players irons are jacked up loft wise.
That said, it not as easy to hit a 8 iron with a 6 iorn loft as you might think, especially a blade.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 11:22 am
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:50 am to bopper50
quote:But his 8 iron is really a true 6 iron
That said, it not as easy to hit a 8 iron with a 6 iorn loft as you might think, especially a blade.
Not only is it a 6 iron loft, it’s a 6 iron length…
It’s still a fantastic shot but just pointing that out
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:37 am to lsupride87
Yeah he does one length clubs. Been wondering if I should try it.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:42 am to PhiTiger1764
What kinda beta male douche nugget would snatch a ball he knows is intended for a kid and take off immediately ...
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:35 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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They won’t play enough, That they won’t keep up with the absolute best players in the world When it counts
LIV has 14 events per year and most players supplement with majors and DP or Asia tour events.
PGA minimum is 15. Jordan Spieth only has 11 events on the books for this season so far and Rory will play around 15.
This talking point is uninformed and needs to go away.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:08 am to The Pirate King
if you think those guys getting the big payouts are giving the same effort as before, then you are fooling yourself.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:10 am to donRANDOMnumbers
Cam Smith alluded to this last year.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:21 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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if you think those guys getting the big payouts are giving the same effort as before, then you are fooling yourself.
Y’all are overcompensating these guys financial motives & ignoring their competitiveness as a professional golfer to “be the best”.
Does it only apply to LIV Golfers?
Scottie has made over $60M in his career on PGA Tour. Does that mean he doesn’t want to win as much now?
Most of these guys are cut from the same stuff. They’re competitors
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:32 am to Tiger1242
Bryson seems so much happier in general.
At the Masters practice rounds this year, he was joking with the patrons, tossed his ball to the crowd on 16, and in general seemed to be in much better spirits. I think the YouTube stuff is helping as well.
I think he says dumb stuff sometimes, but he definitely seems far more likable than he used to.
At the Masters practice rounds this year, he was joking with the patrons, tossed his ball to the crowd on 16, and in general seemed to be in much better spirits. I think the YouTube stuff is helping as well.
I think he says dumb stuff sometimes, but he definitely seems far more likable than he used to.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:33 am to JimTiger72
I think LIV guys are competitive, but the inherit nature of their tournaments is more laid back. It was a big selling point for most the guys who took the money. Work less and get paid more.
I think there’s absolutely some validity that it’s really difficult to flip the switch 4 times per year. Bryson has been able to do it, but it will be interesting to follow as LIV progresses.
I think there’s absolutely some validity that it’s really difficult to flip the switch 4 times per year. Bryson has been able to do it, but it will be interesting to follow as LIV progresses.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:54 am to Swagga
agreed.
its not a knock on what they want. but don't expect all the LIV guys to keep up the same competitive nature.
Bryson is an exception because he lives and breathes golf. he is one of the better social media follows.
its not a knock on what they want. but don't expect all the LIV guys to keep up the same competitive nature.
Bryson is an exception because he lives and breathes golf. he is one of the better social media follows.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 11:57 am to donRANDOMnumbers
The big name guys below
DJ and Cam admitted they slacked off. Straight from horses mouth
Koepka has no effect because he was always hyper focused on majors. Interesting how much easier he seems to win the normal liv tournaments vs PGA tour events. He had 4 total non major wins in all his years on tour. He already has 4 liv wins
Bryson still grinding like a mad man
Rahm I think is still working his arse off but I think he was being honest a year ago when he said liv format is shite. I don’t think he likes liv at all and it seems to have made him miserable. The dude looks like his eyes are dead and staring into the abyss
DJ and Cam admitted they slacked off. Straight from horses mouth
Koepka has no effect because he was always hyper focused on majors. Interesting how much easier he seems to win the normal liv tournaments vs PGA tour events. He had 4 total non major wins in all his years on tour. He already has 4 liv wins
Bryson still grinding like a mad man
Rahm I think is still working his arse off but I think he was being honest a year ago when he said liv format is shite. I don’t think he likes liv at all and it seems to have made him miserable. The dude looks like his eyes are dead and staring into the abyss
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:00 pm to lsupride87
I think you’ve pretty much nailed it with respect to the guys you mentioned.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
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The big name guys below
You forgot about the best iron player in the world, Talor Gooch. How many tour wins would he have right now on the regular tour?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:07 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
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if you think those guys getting the big payouts are giving the same effort as before
Ah so now we're moving the goalposts from events played to "effort".
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:09 pm to lsupride87
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Koepka has no effect because he was always hyper focused on majors. Interesting how much easier he seems to win the normal liv tournaments vs PGA tour events. He had 4 total non major wins in all his years on tour. He already has 4 liv wins
Koepka has always been a different breed of golfer. Prior to his move to LIV he had 4 major wins and 4 wins in regular tournaments (2 in Phoenix). That's an insane mix of wins. Guys who win that many majors tend to have 3 times that number of regular wins, but not Brooks. His record since moving to LIV is more of what you'd expect of a guy like him...lots of regular wins in addition to another major.
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Bryson still grinding like a mad man
Bryson plays a game foreign to the rest of us. He just either cannot put it together for 72 holes, or he gets beat by a guy having an even more insane week than him. The way he chewed Winged Foot up and spit it out is still one of the most impressive feats of golf I've ever seen, and I watched all of Tiger at Pebble in 2000.
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Rahm I think is still working his arse off but I think he was being honest a year ago when he said liv format is shite. I don’t think he likes liv at all and it seems to have made him miserable. The dude looks like his eyes are dead and staring into the abyss
I think Rahm is the one guy that has buyers' remorse for his decision. He's openly complained about the 54 hole format and has not played well in majors. Somehow i get the feeling that his move had a lot to do with either the wife or the agent insisting that he take the money.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:16 pm to Tiger1242
I don't know about improved him image, but one thing he definitely has done has made people realize how much fun he can be to watch play golf. He is exciting and people are taking notice. This isn't really a new thing, it is becoming apparent because he quit being such a douche that we all liked to make fun of.
From an entertainment standpoint, he is more fun to watch than a lot of the top golfers. Morikawa, Xander, Cantlay come to mind.
People are drawn to people like JT, Speech, etc bc they are fun to watch. Rahm is another good example of someone who is fun to watch. Golf needs more of those types.
From an entertainment standpoint, he is more fun to watch than a lot of the top golfers. Morikawa, Xander, Cantlay come to mind.
People are drawn to people like JT, Speech, etc bc they are fun to watch. Rahm is another good example of someone who is fun to watch. Golf needs more of those types.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:18 pm to The Pirate King
quote:That would be liv fans….
Ah so now we're moving the goalposts from events played to "effort".
LIv fans were all “they get to play so much less and be with their families. So sweet!!!! It isn’t the money”
Then it turns out liv makes 14 tournaments mandatory so adding the majors at 18 it’s almost identical to the big players schedules before
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:39 pm to bstaceyau19
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Rahm I think is still working his arse off but I think he was being honest a year ago when he said liv format is shite. I don’t think he likes liv at all and it seems to have made him miserable. The dude looks like his eyes are dead and staring into the abyss
I think Rahm is the one guy that has buyers' remorse for his decision. He's openly complained about the 54 hole format and has not played well in majors. Somehow i get the feeling that his move had a lot to do with either the wife or the agent insisting that he take the money.
I think he got talked into a bit by some of his pro athlete friends as well, like that meathead JJ Watt. "Take the bag now" is different in a sport where you get CTE and are lucky if you play 7 - 8 years and extremely lucky if you get a third contract; it's a bit different over a 20+ year career where the best (like Rahm, and he'll return to form eventually) earn generationally money both on and off the course and the majors are elevated more than ever, and Watt is a bit too thick to see three and four steps ahead.
He was the ultimate pawn in the PIF's game of chicken in the "keep playing games with us on the merger, and we'll keep doing this" to the Tour. Now that it appears the deal could be falling apart (again), it'll be interesting to see who they do after next who probably really doesn't want to go all that much.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:13 pm to lsupride87
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LIv fans were all “they get to play so much less and be with their families. So sweet!!!! It isn’t the money”
I've defended the guys leaving for LIV on here more than most, but because I felt leaving for the money was the smart movie. And it 100% was. But I don't think there are many people making a "it isn't the money" argument.
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