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re: Do Children Have a “Right to Hug” Their Parents?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:52 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:52 pm to 4cubbies
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I'm still having a hard time connecting my saying that I don't if people are making the public unsafe while the people endangering the public are having fun to me not being allowed to have concern about corruption within our penal system.
Can you just tell me how these two things are connected?
Is the root cause of forcing people to pay for visitation them having fun? Is that your suggestion?
No, and either you know it or you're just not able to grasp it. Your style of discourse seems to be to ignore explanations then pose questions base on ignoring them.
In other words, your engagement is insincere. You aren't interested in honest discourse, you're interested only in people telling you how right you are (even when you aren't). That's why you receive so much hostility when you post.
Case in point:
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You haven't though. You just keep bringing up me saying that I don't care if people at a parade are having fun while they are posing a thread to public safety and saying that means ... what again? That I shouldn't point out corruption?
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Does this mean you think there is something wrong with charging people to visit their loved ones if they haven't been convicted of a crime?
I've explained my position: the subject itself is only a symptom of a larger problem. That's your answer. You just don't like it because it doesn't fit within the binary choice of supporting your stance or disagreeing with it.
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you need me to answer whether or not I think I'm stupid?
I baited you and you're now obsessed with the bait to ignore the actual questions. Please, feel free to quote all the questions I asked then explain how it devolves to just what you've stated.
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:03 pm to 4cubbies
To Hell with the hugs and to Hell with video visit profiteering.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:07 pm to roadGator
So the jail ie sheriff profit just so an inmate can video chat their child? If they want to go to video visitation, fine. But don’t make the inmates family pay for it. Phone service, email, all kickbacks to the sheriff or a sheriffs family member.
Private prisons should be outlawed. No reason someone should make money on more people getting sent to jail.
Private prisons should be outlawed. No reason someone should make money on more people getting sent to jail.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:32 pm to Bard
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I baited you and you're now obsessed with the bait to ignore the actual questions
When you’re ready to just have a regular discussion, lmk.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:34 pm to auggie
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I've been arrested before and had to be bonded out. Even though I was poor, it was easy for me to get a friend to sign a property bond for me.
Good for you. I’ve never been asked for bail money, nor have I ever needed bail money.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:43 pm to 4cubbies
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Good for you. I’ve never been asked for bail money, nor have I ever needed bail money.
Then what are you bitching about?
There is a process available to get out of jail while awaiting trial.
If you take advantage of that process, you don't have to sit in jail and talk on a video phone.
Problem solved. You don't have to thank me.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:01 pm to auggie
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Then what are you bitching about?
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Are you asking why I’m discussing corruption on a political message board? Why are you calling this discussion “bitching?” Is that what you’re doing?
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There is a process available to get out of jail while awaiting trial.
There’s also a process to fly into outer space. That doesn’t mean it’s accessible to most people.
It seems like you’re under the impression that everyone in Louisiana lives your life with your same circumstances. You assume everyone has access to several thousand dollars (although you admitted you didn’t have access to that when you were arrested) and assumed everyone had friends that are capable of bailing them out. Why do you assume the people making $27k a year are just like you?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:08 pm to 4cubbies
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There’s also a process to fly into outer space. That doesn’t mean it’s accessible to most people.
The bond process is available to anyone who hasn't totally fricked up their own reputation so bad, that no one can trust them enough to help them.
Maybe you should try to white knight for better people.
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assumed everyone had friends that are capable of bailing them out. Why do you assume the people making $27k a year are just like you?
They should try to make better friends.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:12 pm to 4cubbies
Just remember the person writing this and the retarded OP that posted it are the type of people that said things like “unvaccinated people should have their children taken from them” and think parents that don’t want their kids to be manipulated into chemical castration should have them taken by the state
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:31 pm to auggie
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anyone who hasn't totally fricked up their own reputation so bad, that no one can trust them enough to help them.
This is an extremely naive take.
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Maybe you should try to white knight for wealthier people.
FIFY
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:09 pm to 4cubbies
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This is an extremely naive take.
Oh somebody is naive here, but it's not me.
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Maybe you should try to white knight for working people who actually pay for everything, instead of somebody who has to sit in jail due to bad choices.
FIFY
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:22 pm to 4cubbies
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the anecdotal evidence that only you are allowed to provide?
WHAT?
You are the Board Lord of saying, "I've never seen anyone do that." (Always about stuff that everyone knows is happening or exists).
It's one of your go-to tactics.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:33 pm to 4cubbies
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Even people who have been convicted of crimes possess human dignity.
Agreed.
And we allow the emotional satisfaction that (some) get from "punishing" people who have done something wrong to supersede simple common sense.
It's not good for society to treat prisoners the way they are treated. It doesn't seem to work as a deterrent nearly as much as it seems to work to create more hardened, violent criminals.
We cut off our noses to spite our faces with this issue.
All that said, you'd get a lot further with your threads if your delivery was different.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:33 pm to kbtigers85
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Just remember the person writing this and the retarded OP that posted it are the type of people that said things like “unvaccinated people should have their children taken from them” and think parents that don’t want their kids to be manipulated into chemical castration should have them taken by the state
Link? When have I ever commented on vaccinations here? I don’t care what you do or don’t inject into your body.
When have I ever advocated for kids to have elective surgeries?
You made all this up for what purpose? Because you want people who have been accused of crimes to suffer?
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:37 pm to wackatimesthree
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You are the Board Lord of saying, "I've never seen anyone do that
I am skeptical of many of the tweets posted here. I don’t count Twitter as a credible source for information. I would be more concerned about the people who believe every tweet they see than the person who questions them.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:41 pm to 4cubbies
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I am skeptical of many of the tweets posted here. I don’t count Twitter as a credible source for information. I would be more concerned about the people who believe every tweet they see than the person who questions them.
O.k., but we're supposed to take your word for it every time you claim you've never seen something happen that is so common that there are dozens of YouTube videos about it online?
Seems like a double standard to me.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:19 pm to wackatimesthree
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something happen that is so common that there are dozens of YouTube videos about it online?
Evidence of something on social media isn’t credible evidence. If I don’t see something happening with my own two eyes or at least know people who have seen it happening, it’s hard for me to believe it’s happening frequently everywhere else. What are the odds? Especially things related to trendy and controversial topics. Of course people are posting on social media about them because they want clicks. That doesn’t mean what they’re posting is reality.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:22 pm to 4cubbies
In person visits increase the likelihood of rule violations. Did you ever wonder how Ted Bundy became a dad while he was on death row?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:33 am to 4cubbies
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When you’re ready to just have a regular discussion, lmk.
I'm learning that's impossible with you as you will simply ignore points or attempt to reword them in order not to address them directly. Your idea of a "regular discussion" seems to be "agree with me" and that's not going to happen when your takes are wrong.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:47 am to 4cubbies
I think for profit 3rd party prisons and prison services are complete bullshite.
If the state is going to take your rights and freedom then the state should handle it. Not that would be better, but on principle.
However, before going there and reforming that prosecutors and law enforcement should see some accountability. If we get prosecuted for negligence, so should the prosecutor. If we have to face the legal system for a justified shooting, so should law enforcement instead of a review.
If the state is going to take your rights and freedom then the state should handle it. Not that would be better, but on principle.
However, before going there and reforming that prosecutors and law enforcement should see some accountability. If we get prosecuted for negligence, so should the prosecutor. If we have to face the legal system for a justified shooting, so should law enforcement instead of a review.
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