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re: Do Children Have a “Right to Hug” Their Parents?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:02 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:02 pm to 4cubbies
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It's a question of whether or not the accused knows someone with several thousand dollars on hand who is willing to loan it to them for 5 and a half months.
Louisiana is one of the poorest states in America. The majority of the state is rural. The median income here is $27,0000. Your belief that someone not knowing a person with several thousand dollars on hand that is willing to lend it them for nearly 6 months is some indication of guilt is very concerning. I don't think you realize how poor the majority of people in our state are.
So these upstanding totally innocent people getting arrested, don't know a single person who owns a house and can sign a property bond? It doesn't require any cash.
It doesn't cost anything, as long as they show up for court.
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:06 pm to 4cubbies
What percentage end up convicted?
If you want me to cry with you it’s going to have to be a low number.
If you want me to cry with you it’s going to have to be a low number.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:07 pm to stout
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I hire people for work from a sober living facility and have seen a few of them get arrested for stupid crap over the weekends while they were off. They can't find anyone to help them because they are already so far gone that family just can't keep helping them. Its sad but you can't blame their family for giving up.
The bleeding hearts always got it all figured out. My Dad got a life sentence in 2008. Died alone in prison at the end of 2021. He had every opportunity and resource to get right before he did what cost him his freedom and wouldn't do it because he was a selfish piece of shite.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:16 pm to 4cubbies
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You're implying that because I believe an impenetrable wall of ladders and tables poses a threat to public safety that should be addressed by police
No, I'm using those words and your posting history to show to you how you are so easily distracted by ancillary issues and why those issues will never get fixed (ie: because they aren't root causes).
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It's impossible to separate the "why" from the actual events.
Impossible for you, I've already demonstrated otherwise.
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This doesn't happen in schools when a school nurse calls a parent to pick up a sick kid. Society would never allow that.
Because schools aren't prisons and kids in schools aren't there because they have been convicted of a crime which demands incarceration.
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Asking someone if they aren't bright enough to understand something is generally considered insulting, since it looks like you didn't know that.
And yet you still haven't answered any of those questions. Your avoidance of direct answers to any of them is answer enough to justify the wording of the question. In other words, I purposely dangled another superficial, emotional hook to see if you were smart enough to not bite on it at the same time I'm telling you that your problem is that you are easily attracted by superficial, emotional hooks... and once again you chomp on it and attempt to swallow it whole.
And you somehow think that proves your mental acumen?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:18 pm to stout
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There are quite a few in local jails. Probably more than you realize.
In the Beauregard Parish jail a friend of mine who works there was telling me they have 3 blocks and one of the blocks is full of convicted criminals including a few murderers due to the state not having room. Unless I missed it, your link mentions no specifics of such circumstances.
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Agreed. Most medium-sized towns have minimum of a holding facility along with a parish jail.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:19 pm to roadGator
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If you want me to cry with you it’s going to have to be a low number.
Why? What percentage of people need to be acquitted for you to be ok with addressing corruption in our penal system?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:25 pm to 4cubbies
Because if it’s 0.09% that’s nothing to cry over.
What percentage jailed aren’t convicted?
You always avoid answering questions you should know.
What percentage jailed aren’t convicted?
You always avoid answering questions you should know.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:25 pm to auggie
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So these upstanding totally innocent people getting arrested
Why do you keep suggesting and repeating this? Do you think it strengthens your argument to mock people who have been accused of crimes?
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don't know a single person who owns a house and can sign a property bond?
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How would I know? But it’s hard to imagine someone making $27,000 a year would own property or would know someone who owns property that is willing to lend it to them.
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It doesn't cost anything, as long as they show up for court.
I understand that you think it’s very easy to find someone to put their house up as collateral for someone else. Maybe it is but it’s hard for me to believe. I certainly wouldn’t be willing to do that for anyone other than my husband.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:28 pm to roadGator
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Because if it’s 0.09% that’s nothing to cry over.
Who is crying? Or are you equating a discussion with shedding tears?
This is a problem. Even people who have been convicted of crimes possess human dignity. They shouldn’t be exploited to perpetuate this neoliberal dystopia that society has devolved into.
You’re saying that if someone got arrested for any reason, that person should have to pay to be allowed contact with anyone on the outside, knowing that people who are incarcerated are unable to earn an income or access money.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:37 pm to Bard
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No, I'm using those words and your posting history to show to you how you are so easily distracted by ancillary issues and why those issues will never get fixed (ie: because they aren't root causes).
I'm still having a hard time connecting my saying that I don't if people are making the public unsafe while the people endangering the public are having fun to me not being allowed to have concern about corruption within our penal system.
Can you just tell me how these two things are connected?
Is the root cause of forcing people to pay for visitation them having fun? Is that your suggestion?
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Impossible for you, I've already demonstrated otherwise.
You haven't though. You just keep bringing up me saying that I don't care if people at a parade are having fun while they are posing a thread to public safety and saying that means ... what again? That I shouldn't point out corruption?
Why not just explicitly connect the two ideas?
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Because schools aren't prisons and kids in schools aren't there because they have been convicted of a crime which demands incarceration.
Does this mean you think there is something wrong with charging people to visit their loved ones if they haven't been convicted of a crime?
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And yet you still haven't answered any of those questions
you need me to answer whether or not I think I'm stupid? You must be having a bad day. This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:40 pm to 4cubbies
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Even people who have been convicted of crimes possess human dignity.
Yea I know when I think about murderers and rapists I instantly equate it with dignity
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:53 pm to 4cubbies
Your thread title is a cry. So it’s you that is crying.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:57 pm to 4cubbies
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Does 4cubbies Have a “Right to Hug” Her Death Row Penpal?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:57 pm to 4cubbies
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Does 4cubbies Have a “Right to Hug” Her Death Row Penpal?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:59 pm to 4cubbies
I’m going to guess that most of the kids in those facilities weren’t getting hugs from their parents anyway
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:08 pm to 4cubbies
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I understand that you think it’s very easy to find someone to put their house up as collateral for someone else. Maybe it is but it’s hard for me to believe. I certainly wouldn’t be willing to do that for anyone other than my husband.
There is a process. It's been the same for everyone, for 250 years. If you don't trust these innocent people who are arrested, to bond them out until they show up for court, it sounds like you are the problem.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:23 pm to stout
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Yea I know when I think about murderers and rapists I instantly equate it with dignity
Did your friend also tell you most people in prison have been convicted of rape and murder?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:24 pm to auggie
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sounds like you are the problem.
noted Why even bother discussing this if you’re just going to end with a lazy “point” like this?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:31 pm to 4cubbies
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Did your friend also tell you most people in prison have been convicted of rape and murder?
No but your own link from earlier tells me most are in for violent crimes
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:32 pm to 4cubbies
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noted
Why even bother discussing this if you’re just going to end with a lazy “point” like this?
I've been arrested before and had to be bonded out.
Even though I was poor, it was easy for me to get a friend to sign a property bond for me.
He knew I wasn't going miss court and frick him up.
If a person doesn't know anyone who trusts him, that's his own fault.
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