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re: Conference Tournament Week - (Bid Stealer Tracker)
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:40 pm to Traceg03
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:40 pm to Traceg03
Excellent work. If I could suggest anything, it would be adding the RPI for the teams you think are locks for guys like me who just want to look at all that stuff 
I was floundering about, trying to figure out how to go about collating this sort of info, and couldn't get a handle on what I wanted to do, so I appreciate what you did here. It is thorough and well laid out.
I was floundering about, trying to figure out how to go about collating this sort of info, and couldn't get a handle on what I wanted to do, so I appreciate what you did here. It is thorough and well laid out.
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:41 pm to Traceg03
Thanks for this great service. Thank goodness you had an premature ejaculation, my mind could not absorb much more
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:46 pm to csorre1
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The D1 nerdcast podcast has a great breakdown of the projected field and why they selected who they selected. It's last week's information, but they'll update this week.
When do they typically drop their updated podcast?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:49 pm to GeauxTime9
Wednesdays I believe.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:08 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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SEC:
Locks (7): Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Miss St, Alabama
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SEC:
Locks (7): Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Miss St, Alabama
Why do you have Bama as a lock? They were one game away from being left out. I think they are far from a lock, unless you think 11 SEC teams are locks.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:19 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
If I had to guess as to why he has Bama as a lock it would be because they were deeply in before the Auburn series. And idk if losing that series 1-2 takes them out. They have the best Metrics of the 13-17s
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:23 pm to Traceg03
I agree that Bama's a lock and is why I'm rooting for them to beat USCe. Losing 7 straight SEC games may be too much for the cocks to overcome.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:40 pm to Traceg03
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If I had to guess as to why he has Bama as a lock it would be because they were deeply in before the Auburn series
So if Bama loses Tuesday and LSU wins, along with whoever else winning or losing, Bama is still one of the SEC teams in? If they answer is, "well it depends" then they aren't a "lock." I don't consider any 13 win SEC team a lock at this point. I think they should all get in, but there will be some sweating it out next weekend.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:49 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Why do you have Bama as a lock? They were one game away from being left out. I think they are far from a lock, unless you think 11 SEC teams are locks.
Bama had 5 conference series wins vs 4 for the other 13-17 teams, including the winners of both divisions, and a gaudy RPI I don’t the committee can overlook. I don’t honestly think they are materially better than the other 13-17 teams, but I don’t see them getting left out. That said, Florida is the only one I really could see being left out anyway due to their overall record.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 7:57 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Bama had 5 conference series wins vs 4 for the other 13-17 teams, including the winners of both divisions, and a gaudy RPI I don’t the committee can overlook. I don’t honestly think they are materially better than the other 13-17 teams, but I don’t see them getting left out. That said, Florida is the only one I really could see being left out anyway due to their overall record
So you think 11 SEC teams are in? If so, saying they are a lock is fair.
Also, since you singled out UF in your reply. Let's say LSU wins, UF wins the tourney (or makes the finals) and Bama loses Tuesday, is Bama still in? If you think 11 are in, that's fine. But if not, then who is left out?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:22 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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But if not, then who is left out?
Probably vanderbilt in that scenario. Bama is ahead of vandy currently and both will have gone 0-1 in the SECT.
I don't see a scenario where bama is #11. Florida plays vandy so the loser of that game will remain behind alabama
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:24 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I think me and Mike are both in agreement that if the regionals were announced tonight 11 SEC teams would most likely be in because the outcome of the other conference bubble teams last weekend. “If” it was only 10 we both think Florida would be the team left out because of the overall record.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:26 pm to mdomingue
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Excellent work. If I could suggest anything, it would be adding the RPI for the teams you think are locks for guys like me who just want to look at all that stuff
I’ll look into adding this I just figured if I added this it might make my post even harder to follow than I figured it is now.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:33 pm to Traceg03
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I think me and Mike are both in agreement that if the regionals were announced tonight 11 SEC teams would most likely be in because the outcome of the other conference bubble teams last weekend. “If” it was only 10 we both think Florida would be the team left out because of the overall record
That's all valid. I'm not arguing that you guys are wrong. Just trying to figure out the logic behind your opinions.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:55 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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So you think 11 SEC teams are in? If so, saying they are a lock is fair. Also, since you singled out UF in your reply. Let's say LSU wins, UF wins the tourney (or makes the finals) and Bama loses Tuesday, is Bama still in? If you think 11 are in, that's fine. But if not, then who is left out?
I don’t think there’s any magic number of SEC teams in the tournament field. The fact that no conference has gotten 11 bids before doesn’t mean there’s some hard and fast rule against it. There’s never been a situation where what is clearly the best conference has 5 teams in spots 7-11 so closely qualified. There’s no scenario under which I see only 6 SEC teams in the field. If #7 is in, and there’s no reason to think they aren’t, then 8-11 should follow closely behind. The only real differentiator I see is the possibility of Florida’s poor overall record keeping them out. The only thing keeping me from saying the other 3 are locks is the possibility of bid thieves. Even then, I think it would take a lot of chaos for less than 10 SEC teams to be in the field.
This post was edited on 5/19/24 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:06 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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The fact that no conference has gotten 11 bids before doesn’t mean there’s some hard and fast rule against it. There’s never been a situation where what is clearly the best conference has 5 teams in spots 7-11 so closely qualified. There’s no scenario under which I see only 6 SEC teams in the field. If #7 is in, and there’s no reason to think they aren’t, then 8-11 should follow closely behind
I don't disagree. I would like to know the years where 13 win SEC teams were in, and when they were left out, what the rest of the league looked like. Idk of another comparable year where so many were bunched up with 13 wins. Not saying it never existed. But just saying 13 is or isn't enough isn't necessarily comparable when you don't know what it looked like then versus now.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:42 pm to Traceg03
Nice job putting this together.
Good stuff.
LFGeaux!!!!!
Good stuff.
LFGeaux!!!!!
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:03 am to Traceg03
Can we please get this beautiful thread stickied until May 27th?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 12:19 am to Hold That Tiger 10
One of the biggest differences in the landscape is the top end talent from all of the other leagues flooding to the SEC. For the most part, the SEC performed extremely well OOC. All of the metrics favor the teams in our league 1-13 (lol Missouri), and I too think if you take one 13-17, you take them all. I still would like to win vs Georgia and maybe Kentucky to put us at the top of the 13-17 teams, but I think the league will get 11 in unless there is absolute chaos with the bid stealers.
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