re: RPI is 30, KPI is 21

We still got help with Auburn taking 2 from bama,UF losing 1, USC getting swept, Vandy losing 2. Could’ve been worse.

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Hence why I make the point that what you do in your tournament matters a lot;

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Arizona went 12-18 in a bad PAC12 last year but made their conference tournament final, and they got into the NCAA tournament.

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2. IMO, the SEC is not gonna get 11 teams in the tournament. Doesn't matter what deserves to happen in that regard, we are not getting 11 teams in. I'll be glad to be wrong on this.

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What’s magical about 10 teams vs 11? Why not only 8 or 9? If the committee cannot separate the SEC teams, what reason would they have to set some arbitrary number? The only real differentiator is overall record, so if they leave out anyone it will be Florida, but not because they are capping the number of SEC teams. Have you actually taken the time to look at who the committee would have to invite instead?

Thing with super conferences… think ACC and big east basketball, don’t blame teams because they are in a loaded conference for given sport.

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Yes, I heard them talking about it on one of the broadcasts. And we have a good position at 21. But as we know, there are many SEC teams with better records (and KPIs) than ours. Hoping they don’t set an arbitrary cap on conferences. (And thanks for the link, OP)

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KPI (along with other predictive metrics) have been used in basketball for 5-6 years now (that's where the NET rankings came in). It's simply another data metric for the committee to use aside from RPI (which was replaced in basketball). But they don't simply look at the KPI rankings and say "we are taking the top 9 teams from X conference, in order" and call it a day.

Yes, LSU it 10th in these rankings. But they are one spot behind a 28-26 Florida team. Florida's data rankings are propped up by a great SOS. But 2 games over .500 isn't getting them in.

LSU is 2 spots behind Vandy. LSU's record (36-20; 13-17). Vandy's record (35-20; 13-17). LSU actually has one more away/neutral site than Vandy...which is very important. Point being, if Vandy is a "lock" so is LSU. LSU is also ahead of South Carolina who others think to be a "lock".

Florida is the one carve out. But even with the high ranking their overall record just isn't good. Playing a tough schedule is important. But you don't get extra credit if you lose to most of the teams on that schedule.

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I’m in no way depending on the conference do something that has never happened - getting 11 teams in. No freaking way.

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How many times has the top rated conference had 5 teams tie for 7th in the standings and all be in the Top 30 in RPI and now Top 22 in KPI? How many times has a team tied for 7th in the SEC and in the Top 30 in the RPI not made the tournament? It’s never happened because there’s never been a set of circumstances like this. No conference ever had 10 until the circumstances called for the SEC to get that many. There’s no magic ceiling. A conference has just never deserved 11 bids before. And still you refuse to answer a question you know you can’t answer.

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We're on the edge. I don't feel good about our chances at all if we lose tomorrow. At some point, it doesn't matter if everyone "knows" we're better than half the other at-large candidates, you have to perform and win.

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Bubble: 19 teams for 13 spots minus bid thieves

South Carolina 33-21 (13-17) RPI: #19

Vanderbilt 35-20 (13-17) RPI: #27

LSU: 36-20 (13-17) RPI: #30

Florida 28-26 (13-17) RPI: #24

Louisville: 32-22 (16-14) RPI: #52

Georgia Tech: 31-21 (15-15) RPI: #46

Cincinnati: 31-23 (17-13) RPI: #55

Kansas St: 31-22 (15-15) RPI: #41

UCF: 33-18 (14-15) RPI: #42

TCU: 31-19 (14-16) RPI: #39

Cal: 34-18 (17-13) RPI: #65

Troy: 36-20 (18-12) RPI: #53

James Madison: 32-21 (17-13) RPI: #44

Coastal Carolina: 33-21 (16-14) RPI: #35

Indiana: 30-22-1 (15-9) RPI: #60

Charleston: 39-12 (21-5) RPI: #50

UNCW: 36-19 (20-7) RPI: #47

St John’s: 34-16-1 (14-7) RPI: #63

Xavier: 29-25 (12-9) RPI: #38


A few quick tidbits on the bubble teams:

- LSU has the most Q1/2 wins with 18 (SC and Florida next best with 15).
- LSU and SC are tied for the fewest Q3/4 losses with 2 (Vandy and Florida next with 3.)
- LSU is 3rd in WPct vs Q1/2 at .500. (Cal at 12-10 and Troy at 13-12 are only bubble teams with a winning record vs Q1/2, but both lost 8 Q3/4 games.)
- GT with 9 and Xavier with 8 are only non-SEC bubble teams with more Q1 wins than LSU’s 7, but both are below .500 vs Q1/2 while GT has 6 Q3/4 losses and Xavier has 12.

Is that “not performing”, at least in comparison to the other teams competing for the last spots on the field? If there is mass chaos and a lot of bids stolen, LSU could slip out, but as of now, which 13 teams on that list do you expect the committee to put in ahead of LSU?