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A pitcher hasn’t pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.

Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:22 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:22 pm
When are pitchers going to be men again and throw for 200+ innings a year for 15-20 years?

To add some perspective, in 1973, Nolan Ryan broke the single-season strikeout record with 383 strikeouts while pitching 326 innings and still did not lead the major leagues and innings pitched.

If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 8:03 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:35 pm to
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To add some perspective

It's only been 2 fricking games.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10235 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:02 am to
today's game is different than yesterday's game.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:19 am
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8588 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:20 am to
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A pitcher has pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.


I’ve never considered myself the smartest person in any room, but I have no clue what this means or what you’re trying to say
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145288 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:15 am to
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f Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate


just have an elite relievers strike out rate over the most innings pitched in a major league season in 14 years. thats all
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 1:20 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:39 am to

Who is the pitcher you're referring to? Honestly curious
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:01 am to
quote:

To add some perspective, in 1973, Nolan Ryan broke the single-season strikeout record with 383 strikeouts while pitching 326 innings and still did not lead the major leagues and innings pitched.

If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
What was Nolan Ryan's K rate in the majors when he was Skenes' age?

Oh yeah, he pitched 7 whole minor league innings that year.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 2:05 am
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek
Member since Jul 2020
4691 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:11 am to
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That's wild.


Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15942 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:47 am to
And why don’t they bat anymore? Bunch of pussies.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:19 am to
It will never happen ever again. That was then, this is now. And I don't romanticize what was, for everyone who survived like Ryan, there were four others who ended up on the junk heap. Ryan should not be held up as the standard, he was an absolute freak of nature.

The basic problem is the nature of the game has irrevocably changed. Back when people threw all those innings, every single solitary second of a game from the opening pitch of the first inning to the last pitch of the ninth inning was not a "game moment." As in winning and losing was riding on literally every action taken in the game.

There was a certain rhythm to the game, ebbs and flows, the pitchers may have been throwing a jillion pitches but they also would pace themselves, even Ryan. It wasn't balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out on every freaking pitch.

It is now, with little middle infielders like Altuve (not picking on him, he's a representative example that popped into my mind to amplify the point) capable of driving the ball 450 on any pitch. So teams want an arm out there capable of going balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out with every pitch.

Plus there's the fact that these people are business investments as much as they are athletes and competitors these days.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:39 am to
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When are pitchers going to be men again and throw for 200+ innings a year for 15-20 years?


Don't blame pitchers. Blame organizations and Scott Boras. The overprotectiveness of pitchers is directly related to the increased pitcher salaries.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14571 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:40 am to
Is this a product of youth league and travel ball adding up?

These kids that play year round and ONLY play baseball I figure an arm could gas out at some point
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25878 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:00 am to
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If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
holy sample size batman
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:26 pm to
And it's not gonna change, in fact it's going swiftly in the opposite direction.

It's a bullpen game now, going 6 innings which is still considered the bare minimum for a quality start is now almost an anomaly for starting pitchers if they are in the neighborhood of 100 pitches.

And the unwritten rule is now that pitchers can't throw more than 30 innings more than they did the year before or you are putting them in jeopardy.

So Skeenes for example pitched 122 innings for LSU last year so if that holds, and the sabergeeks will be watching, once he reaches a combined 152 innings minors and majors he will be shut down around 152 innings, which if he stays healthy will be in late August tor early September.
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