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A pitcher hasn’t pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:22 pm
When are pitchers going to be men again and throw for 200+ innings a year for 15-20 years?
To add some perspective, in 1973, Nolan Ryan broke the single-season strikeout record with 383 strikeouts while pitching 326 innings and still did not lead the major leagues and innings pitched.
If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
To add some perspective, in 1973, Nolan Ryan broke the single-season strikeout record with 383 strikeouts while pitching 326 innings and still did not lead the major leagues and innings pitched.
If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 8:03 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:35 pm to theunknownknight
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To add some perspective
It's only been 2 fricking games.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:02 am to theunknownknight
today's game is different than yesterday's game.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:19 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:20 am to theunknownknight
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A pitcher has pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.
I’ve never considered myself the smartest person in any room, but I have no clue what this means or what you’re trying to say
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:15 am to theunknownknight
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f Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate
just have an elite relievers strike out rate over the most innings pitched in a major league season in 14 years. thats all
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 1:20 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:39 am to theunknownknight
Who is the pitcher you're referring to? Honestly curious
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:01 am to theunknownknight
quote:What was Nolan Ryan's K rate in the majors when he was Skenes' age?
To add some perspective, in 1973, Nolan Ryan broke the single-season strikeout record with 383 strikeouts while pitching 326 innings and still did not lead the major leagues and innings pitched.
If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
Oh yeah, he pitched 7 whole minor league innings that year.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 2:05 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:11 am to theunknownknight
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That's wild.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:47 am to theunknownknight
And why don’t they bat anymore? Bunch of pussies.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:19 am to theunknownknight
It will never happen ever again. That was then, this is now. And I don't romanticize what was, for everyone who survived like Ryan, there were four others who ended up on the junk heap. Ryan should not be held up as the standard, he was an absolute freak of nature.
The basic problem is the nature of the game has irrevocably changed. Back when people threw all those innings, every single solitary second of a game from the opening pitch of the first inning to the last pitch of the ninth inning was not a "game moment." As in winning and losing was riding on literally every action taken in the game.
There was a certain rhythm to the game, ebbs and flows, the pitchers may have been throwing a jillion pitches but they also would pace themselves, even Ryan. It wasn't balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out on every freaking pitch.
It is now, with little middle infielders like Altuve (not picking on him, he's a representative example that popped into my mind to amplify the point) capable of driving the ball 450 on any pitch. So teams want an arm out there capable of going balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out with every pitch.
Plus there's the fact that these people are business investments as much as they are athletes and competitors these days.
The basic problem is the nature of the game has irrevocably changed. Back when people threw all those innings, every single solitary second of a game from the opening pitch of the first inning to the last pitch of the ninth inning was not a "game moment." As in winning and losing was riding on literally every action taken in the game.
There was a certain rhythm to the game, ebbs and flows, the pitchers may have been throwing a jillion pitches but they also would pace themselves, even Ryan. It wasn't balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out on every freaking pitch.
It is now, with little middle infielders like Altuve (not picking on him, he's a representative example that popped into my mind to amplify the point) capable of driving the ball 450 on any pitch. So teams want an arm out there capable of going balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out with every pitch.
Plus there's the fact that these people are business investments as much as they are athletes and competitors these days.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:39 am to theunknownknight
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When are pitchers going to be men again and throw for 200+ innings a year for 15-20 years?
Don't blame pitchers. Blame organizations and Scott Boras. The overprotectiveness of pitchers is directly related to the increased pitcher salaries.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:40 am to theunknownknight
Is this a product of youth league and travel ball adding up?
These kids that play year round and ONLY play baseball I figure an arm could gas out at some point
These kids that play year round and ONLY play baseball I figure an arm could gas out at some point
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:00 am to theunknownknight
quote:holy sample size batman
If Skenes pitched that many innings with his current strikeout rate, he’d end up with 587 strikeouts.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:26 pm to theunknownknight
And it's not gonna change, in fact it's going swiftly in the opposite direction.
It's a bullpen game now, going 6 innings which is still considered the bare minimum for a quality start is now almost an anomaly for starting pitchers if they are in the neighborhood of 100 pitches.
And the unwritten rule is now that pitchers can't throw more than 30 innings more than they did the year before or you are putting them in jeopardy.
So Skeenes for example pitched 122 innings for LSU last year so if that holds, and the sabergeeks will be watching, once he reaches a combined 152 innings minors and majors he will be shut down around 152 innings, which if he stays healthy will be in late August tor early September.
It's a bullpen game now, going 6 innings which is still considered the bare minimum for a quality start is now almost an anomaly for starting pitchers if they are in the neighborhood of 100 pitches.
And the unwritten rule is now that pitchers can't throw more than 30 innings more than they did the year before or you are putting them in jeopardy.
So Skeenes for example pitched 122 innings for LSU last year so if that holds, and the sabergeeks will be watching, once he reaches a combined 152 innings minors and majors he will be shut down around 152 innings, which if he stays healthy will be in late August tor early September.
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