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re: Non leftists that are Pro Palestinian

Posted on 5/17/24 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12856 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 3:01 pm to
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So you don't have a problem with what Israel is doing you just don't like the words they are using to describe what Israel is doing?


I have no problem with what Israel is doing. They are fighting a war against barbarians that use human shields. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, that could’ve easily been completed by October 10th.

Why is Gaza the world’s largest open air prison? Israel pulled out almost 20 years ago; they’ve been under hamas’ rule since. If hamas didn’t constantly launch rockets or send suicide bombers into Israel, maybe Gaza’s borders would be as open as ours.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29087 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 3:10 pm to
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I have no problem with what Israel is doing. They are fighting a war against barbarians that use human shields. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, that could’ve easily been completed by October 10th.


i'll repeat that Israel is an a-hole and i don't want one more penny to go there, but if Israel was "genociding them" that place would be completely flat by October 8th and Israel would have a new beachfront resort there already built by now.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40787 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 3:11 pm to
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If Israel wanted to commit genocide, that could’ve easily been completed by October 10th.



So you're saying it's not genocide as long as they are killing at slow enough of a rate?

Again it sounds like you're just upset about the words being used to describe Israel's actions.

Attempting to remove an entire ethnic group of people from an area of land that you would like to control. What exactly would you call that?
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37948 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 3:15 pm to
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I have no problem with what Israel is doing. They are fighting a war against barbarians that use human shields.


Yeah bro. Hamas should have remained on their military bases in a place the size of New Orleans with 3 times the population.

You can say they shouldn’t fight, but the human shields argument is irrelevant. They have nowhere to go that isn’t human shielded.

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Why is Gaza the world’s largest open air prison? Israel pulled out almost 20 years ago


Yeah bro. They pulled out and then built a 30’ tall wall all the way around it, created a full military blockade, don’t allow authorized exit, don’t allow an airport or seaport, hell don’t even let them fish more than a couple miles offshore. Totally not an open air prison.

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they’ve been under hamas’ rule since.


Something the Israeli government encouraged and facilitated. In fact they were a large part of creating the group in the first place.

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If hamas didn’t constantly launch rockets or send suicide bombers into Israel, maybe Gaza’s borders would be as open as ours.


If they weren’t herded into a huge refugee camp with no hope of ever improving their circumstances, maybe they wouldn’t resort to terrorism?



This is why you started this thread and seem genuinely confused. Why would smart people you respect in other areas say Hamas talking points? Well maybe they aren’t Hamas talking points, and maybe it is you who regurgitates talking points. Everything you said was the laziest, most cliche talking point in the book and you wrapped them all into one.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
428 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:50 pm to
The barbarians are the ones who used terrorism to steal the land of Palestine
If you ignore that fact, then the Palis,look like the bad guys.
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