re: Non leftists that are Pro Palestinian

I fall into this camp, with a couple of notable distinctions

1. I never use rhetoric about genocides, ethnic cleansing, or apartheid (though apartheid is absolutely a valid claim, I just don’t care).

2. I’m not pro Palestinian

I don’t really think the people you listed are necessarily “pro” Palestinian either, and it’s lazy to just throw that label around.

Contrarianism plays a part, sure. But here’s the deal as far as I’m concerned. Most of the stuff that gets parroted in the US about Israel is either a lie, or it’s sugar coated. I’m more concerned with this than pro Palestinian rhetoric because Israel has massive influence over our spending, foreign involvement, and even domestic policy. They are able to achieve this because vast swaths of the country buy every bit of their propaganda without questioning.

So I want to move away from giving them billions of dollars, and being fully expected to intervene in any serious conflict they are involved in. And I want domestic governors and Congress to stop creating ridiculous legislation surrounding this foreign country. None of this stops until the American public learn more about the truth of the darker side of their shenanigans.

If we achieved that sort of separation from them, I don’t care if they kill everyone in Gaza and the West Bank. They are welcome to do whatever they can handle on their own and more power to them. I am so sick of being tied to them though, and we get nothing out of this deal, absolutely nothing.