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re: Another JL moment: 10 Commandments coming to La public schools.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:25 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:25 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:Since "under God" was added to the pledge and "In God we trust" added to our currency in the 1950's one can argue that moral standards have gone straight downhill.
But, reminding people of the objective moral standards that made this nation the greatest nation in the history of the world is a good thing- and the most sensible place to start. America is “one nation, under God.” We’re free to worship Him in our own way, and we’re free to abstain altogether. But the more that choose the latter, the worse things will get.
It is probably the fault of religious nut jobs who want to ignore the parts of the Constitution they don't like that we have the internal fractures we have today.
Our country was founded by people who EXPLICITLY wanted to keep religion out of government.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:31 pm to mmcgrath
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Since "under God" was added to the pledge and "In God we trust" added to our currency in the 1950's one can argue that moral standards have gone straight downhill.
Do you believe the declining moral standards in America are due to Christianity?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:32 pm to mmcgrath
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Since "under God" was added to the pledge and "In God we trust" added to our currency in the 1950's one can argue that moral standards have gone straight downhill.
Just to clarify, IGWT was added to coinage during the civil war by this board’s favorite president, Abe Lincoln.
But it was in fact in the 1950s when it was made the national motto and placed on paper currency. And Under God was added to the pledge in the 50s as well.
I agree with your over arching point, but I try to be even handed in my nit picky corrections
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:33 pm to mmcgrath
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Since "under God" was added to the pledge and "In God we trust" added to our currency in the 1950's one can argue that moral standards have gone straight downhill.
It is probably the fault of religious nut jobs who want to ignore the parts of the Constitution they don't like that we have the internal fractures we have today.
Our country was founded by people who EXPLICITLY wanted to keep religion out of government.
Yea man, religious values are what have made society decline.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:37 pm to mmcgrath
quote:No one is stupid enough to actually think this I hope?
Our country was founded by people who EXPLICITLY wanted to keep religion out of government
The founding fathers explicitly wanted to keep goverment from DICTATING the nation's religion & practices, all while noting during its formation the absolute influence & neccessity of Christian beliefs on its foundation & operation. Adams, Jefferson, and others were very explicit on rights and morality coming from God and at the same time, avoiding the government telling everyone they had to believe & practice explicitly as the government commanded them. In no way, shape, or form was the intent to keep all religious displays out of the public space, which by definition should be representation of the public at large - not the least common denominator that the left would like you to believe.
If you don't get that, you either failed in class or your class failed you.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:37 pm to mmcgrath
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Our country was founded by people who EXPLICITLY wanted to keep religion out of government.
They did not want Congress to make a federal law telling them what religion they had to follow similar to the Church of England or prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 4:10 pm to mmcgrath
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Since "under God" was added to the pledge and "In God we trust" added to our currency in the 1950's one can argue that moral standards have gone straight downhill.
Won’t attempt to argue with that. As you pointed out, “our moral standards have gone straight downhill.” I agree. It was happening before the aforementioned. I only argue that it is a departure from the objective standard of morality.
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It is probably the fault of religious nut jobs who want to ignore the parts of the Constitution they don't like that we have the internal fractures we have today.
In part- no doubt. You’ll get no defense from me in regards to those who pervert the gospel of Jesus Christ for their own selfish ambitions. I only argue that these fractures are the inevitable result of created beings, with free will, knowingly refusing to adhere to the objective standard of morality.
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Our country was founded by people who EXPLICITLY wanted to keep religion out of government.
No. They weren’t trying to keep religion out of government- that’s impossible. They were trying to keep government out of religion. Big difference.
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