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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address

Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
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If your belief is that a woman who can’t have children is just shite outta luck on account of God’s will, and you use your platform to broadcast that conviction, then yeah man


But that's literally not the belief.

The belief is that her want of kids does not change the moral implications of killing life to get life. The ends don't justify the means.

At least argue about the actual belief.

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And I feel like you know that there are sliding scales of zealotry. Just because he isn’t murdering someone doesn’t exempt him from sounding a bit fanatical in his statements.


And I'd still argue that believing or speaking aren't zealotry. We are obviously at an impasse.

My only caution, from the very beginning, is that to so quickly label something so innocuous as what Butker did as zealotry is just a dangerous direction to head in. That's a fairly loaded term. It's not a good thing to do.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:57 pm to
Perhaps it’s only innocuous to you because you share his beliefs. Have you considered that possibility?

See I’d wager it’s infinitely worse to use a platform to speak against IVF and surrogacy in the context he did then it is for a random guy on a message board to refer to that behavior as zealotry.

But I guess we will agree to disagree.
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